Posted on 06/30/2008 1:05:17 PM PDT by pissant
OK. So we have had multiple experts declare that the text of Obama's Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) was photoshopped. We have definitive proof that someone in the Obama or Kos camps used a graphics program to black out the certification number. We have been privy to an enterprising new freeper (and townhall blogger) Polarik detail the discrepancies regarding the 'hidden' certification stamp vis a vis the Kos, Obama, openDNA and Decosta examples.
However, to me, the most definitive proof that something is afoul on this COLB is the FACT that the version posted on Obama's official FightTheSmears site is NOT the same as the version posted on DailyKos' site, though they are purported to be a scan of the very same document.
They are not the same. If they were the same but just photoshopped slightly differently to hide the certification number, that would be one thing. However, there is NO VALID EXPLANATION why they would have differing border alignments. This is something I noticed at least two weeks ago, but no one has spent the time to graphically demonstrate it, so here goes.
This is from the Kos webiste, which I reloaded today and zoomed on the lower right corner border alignment. Notice the badly mis-aligned border at the intersection. Somebody did not understand the snap function when this was created:
Now below is the "same" document lifted from Obama's website today, and zoomed similarly. It has poorer quality, but it leaves no doubt that the vertical/horizontal border dividing line is aligned:
So only three scenarios can be possible.
1) Kos and Obama obtained two different versions from Hawaii, and Hawaii has a technical problem with their borders printing out differently.
2) Kos and/or Obama got the document electronically from Hawaii (against all protocol) and they printed out inexplicably different from each other, with Obama's snapping the borders into alignment.
3) These printouts represent separate attempts to photoshop the document to look like the real McCoy.
The probability of the answer being #3 is by far the highest. In any case, they ARE NOT THE SAME DOCUMENT, despite having identical other features such as the bleedthrough date and the same "info". There is some fraud taking place here. It is past time for Obama to release a copy of his original BC and clear the air.
Race category... Would Hawaii have said the RACE was African as on the document or Negro????
African is not a race. It's an origin.
Shrug...
I’m using MS picture manager. I resized Kos’ to match the Obama site’s pixel size. I can still detect misalignment. I do not have Fireworks, so I can’t speak to that.
The text is the same.
Amy is carrying Barry’s water for him.
Also, I am working the opposite as you, instead of trying to remove the misalignment, I am seeing how the misalignment could be created. IE, I am trying to duplicate what the original person who had the certificate would have done to post it on a website.
Moreover, you can see that there is misalignment on the left side EASILY. So why would you NOT assume that both sides are misaligned and the low resolution scan has tricked you.
Stop being bitter clingers. (ha) Seriously, let’s attack Obama for being a U.S.-hating Marxist first.
So, contrary to what their site purports, Amy is a political hack for the Obama camp?
It has both functions.
Don’t know what to tell you then other than Fresh Wind had the same results as I did. Like I said, when I have a chance, I’ll use Captivate to record it and put it into a flash file so you can see a movie of what happens and all the steps.
I pointed out the border alignment issue the first time I saw the image. It is a near certainty that the state of Hawaii buys pre-printed blank certificates from an offset printer, then prints the various details on a laser printer during issuance of the certificate. I cannot fathom an offset printer supplying a state-level customer with junky product like this, period.
I’ve asked on a couple other threads and will ask again here: Does anyone have a link to the valid ObamaMama BC? I’d like to do some comparison in Photoshop CS3 Extended.
MM
http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg
I posted the steps above how I came to the image in Fireworks, but had almost identical results in Photoshop as well.
Thanks, but I’m looking for the BC of Obama’s mother. It was posted on a FR thread days ago but I can’t find it. It DOES look real, so I wanted to have what I believe to be a valid output from the state of Hawaii, to compare against the BO BC.
MM
Well, I just checked going to opposite way, upsizing the Obama pic to Kos size. No misalignment.
Then I compressed the Kos version to 1/2 of the original Obama compression. Still misaligned. Oh well.
The argument is being offered that compression and resizing can cause that. But I think they are separate docs.
The Decosta version, a real BC, had a completely different border.
Did you do the sharpen step? That is where it really jumped for me.
I guess the Decosta BC is the one I’m looking for. I need some valid output from Hawaii for comparison.
BULLCRAP on the compression-and-resizing argument. BULLCRAP. There is NO way, and I do mean NO way, that compression or resizing caused borders to misalign.
MM
I confess I was skeptical at first, pissant, but it looks like you are onto something big.
The image really isn't ‘shifting’ you are just seeing different parts of the line. Ie the lower part of the line is sharpened more on the left and the top part of the line is sharpened more on the right, giving the appearance it is shifted. However, misalignment caused by compression is commonly known, especially in straight lines on objects that have been recompressed. jpg just doesn't handle straight lines very well. Here are a lot of web references to this problem. It is commonly mentione because it is a specific problem with compressing an image into a .jpg format.
http://createpdf.adobe.com/cgi-feeder.pl/help_compression?BP=&LOC=en_US
http://www.vectorsite.net/ttdcmp_2.html
http://pascalzone.amirmelamed.co.il/Graphics/JPEG/JPEG.htm
http://www.r1ch.net/img-formats/
http://www.adobe.com/products/adobemag/archive/pdfs/9605qaph.pdf
At that, there are specific programs created to compress .jpg images but to fix the problem it has with straight lines (by not compressing those areas)
http://www.fulldownloads.org/downloads/JPEG_Optimizer_3_15-1018.html
Photoshop. To what extent, we are not sure. It is possible all the info is accurate, despite the shenanigans. But we want PROOF, not doctored jpegs.
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