[GodGunsGuts]

==I believe it was js### who agreed to debates with conditions that could not be met (closed thread or some such).

Actually, you agreed to a debate, and then backed out:

Allmendream: I think any “Scientist” on your side (who you haven’t frog marched off to prison) would be far too busy debating the ENTIRE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY including the vast majority of those who study retrovirus, to have the time to debate us.

Me: I found one that isn’t tied up. Are you game?

Allmendream: Sure, why not? I am not an expert on virus’s or HIV, nor would I represent myself as such (although no doubt you will), but I know enough to read the literature on the subject of a virus that reproduces within helper T cells in immune compromised patients with low helper T counts and high viral counts.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1945222/posts?q=1&;page=151#167

Me: Let’s work out this debate thing first, and then we can return to codes upon codes.

Me: What happened to the debate re: AIDS? Creation vs. Evolution? Etc? You have suddenly gone silent. What gives?

Allmendream (who resorts to insults when cornered): Really not that interested in the granola eating anti corporate fringe that believe the FDA and Biologists are in cahoots to kill people. I know it agrees with your conspiracy fantasies of cabals of Scientists up to no good, but it doesn’t comport to any reality I know so I have limited interest.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941583/posts?q=1&;page=151#155

[allmendream]

“Sure why not?” is me agreeing to multiple debates? and “I have limited interest” is backing out?

So bring it on. Is the subject to be HIV and AIDS or “cdesign proponentist”? What are the “rules” of this “debate”? Your pedigreed pet Scientist is free to post anything they want and invite me to critique it. I am not standing in anyones way and am not afraid to present what I know on the subject; but as I pointed out I am not an expert on either virus or HIV and would be relying entirely upon the body of knowledge that your “expert” has already rejected.

[allmendream]

Whatever happened to the debate between your pedigreed pet Scientist and js1138? Things looked like they were moving forward on that front but it appears the thread was pulled. Seems you had a (more) interested party willing to debate, what happened?

[allmendream]

My last post on the subject of your proposed debate many moons ago.....

“If you have data present it and I will engage it”

Gee, that is exactly my present position. If you have data, or your pet “Pedigreed” Scientist has data, present it and I will engage it.

Is this position backing down from my “sure, why not?” acceptance? No. It is saying that if you have data present it and I will engage it.