“Do you consider the possibility that living things, as Designed, did not initially kill each other?”
"It wouldn’t really matter. If I design a machine that immediately goes bad on its, it’s a bad design.
Hank"
What if the Designer didn't want a 'perfect machine' that would last for eternity?
What if our idea of a perfect design is not what he had in mind?
If the Designer is indeed Sovereign, would not it be his prerogative?
Bingo Fichori!!!
Psalm 90:10 10 Seventy years are given to us! Some even live to eighty. But even the best years are filled with pain and trouble; soon they disappear, and we fly away.
Look, you obviously believe in ID, and I’m not interested in changing your beliefs, anymore than I’m interested in changing the evolutionists’ beliefs. (By belief I only mean what one holds to be true for whatever reason.) So please understand I’m not really arguing with your belief, only explaining mine.
To me, what you are doing is what the evolutionists do. If the evidence doesn’t exactly fit the story, you change the story.
ID bases its argument, supposedly, on the evidence, evidence that says things look like they’ve been designed and couldn’t just have happened on their own. Look at the order.
So when someone points out flaws and disorder in the design, you add “it was intended that way” to the story. But how do you get the “disorder was intended that way” from the evidence? You can’t.
So, the idea that ID somehow suggests a designer just doesn’t float, because to make it work, you have to assume the designer.
That’s how it appears to me, and the reason I cannot subscribe to it.
Hank