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To: PurpleMountains
How many Scientific hypotheses in history have advanced themselves by saying that by holding to different theories one might engage in fascism and mass murderer?

How many Scientific hypotheses in history have been advanced by a group whose stated goal is the destruction of the Scientific method of empiricism?

How many Scientific hypotheses in history have put forth that the Universe is fundamentally flawed and needs the occasional intervention of an outside and unknown force in order to explain natural phenomena?

The “Incompetent Design” hypothesis is not a Scientific hypothesis it is a theological position, one that presupposes an incompetent “Designer”.

God isn't Science, but he is God. Stars form by gravity and nuclear fusion. The Bible says God made the stars. He is still making them, and I believe he is using the same means used to create them long ago. The Bible says God commanded the Oceans to bring forth life, and for the life to fill the earth. We see life changing around us by evolution through natural selection of genetic variation. I believe God is using the same means to change life that was used long ago.

This movie is built upon the dubious and incorrect premise that the truth of Science is opposition to God, and that Biology is a conspiracy to deny God. Most U.S. Scientists are people of faith.

43 posted on 04/18/2008 5:22:08 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: allmendream

You will note that no ID advocate ever offers evidence for ID.


49 posted on 04/18/2008 5:27:32 PM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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To: allmendream

I hope you’re right in that most scientists are believers...but if they are, they’re not involved in academics! Not science not ANY subject, all too often.

And that IS what the movie is about. Science has been hijacked in the universities by people angry at God.


114 posted on 04/18/2008 7:16:58 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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To: allmendream

I hope you’re right in that most scientists are believers...but if they are, they’re not involved in academics! Not science not ANY subject, all too often.

And that IS what the movie is about. Science has been hijacked in the universities by people angry at God.


115 posted on 04/18/2008 7:17:02 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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To: allmendream
God isn't Science, but he is God. Stars form by gravity and nuclear fusion. The Bible says God made the stars. He is still making them, and I believe he is using the same means used to create them long ago. The Bible says God commanded the Oceans to bring forth life, and for the life to fill the earth. We see life changing around us by evolution through natural selection of genetic variation. I believe God is using the same means to change life that was used long ago.

Amen, amen, amen!

This article states: Darwinism is the foundation science of modern liberalism ...

That statement so destructively confuses symptoms with causes. Truth sets us free, and those who deny truth deny GOD. I am leery of religious people who foment this anti-Darwin hysteria because I see so much falseness in their position. People who deny truth in the name of God are wrong. Maybe because of pride, maybe because of ignorance, but they are still wrong.

Modern liberalism has politicized scientific discoveries about our eons-long worldy material history, and used it to rationalize twisting away from Judeo-Christian rules that say: shun envy and greed. Embrace love. Take a day off once a week. Don't steal, don't murder, don't cheat on your wife or husband, don't lie. Condemn open homosexuality. Treat others the way you'd like for them to treat you. Honor your parents. Be merciful and forgiving and generous. And understand that there is only ONE God, the one Who is telling you these truths that are the key to human thriving and He promises, eternal life.

Modern Liberalism REJECTS all those things not because of Darwinism, but because Liberalism denies God's laws. Liberals may use "survival of the fittest" (a expression that many wrongly conclude endorses moral ruthlessness in seeking survival) to justify their wickedness, but that is separate and apart from the issue of how we in this worldly plain created by God reached this state.

The most ironic thing of all is that all those Judeo Christian rules listed above are our OWN SPIRITUAL Darwinian gift for survival, to thrive, to live in glory! As a matter of fact, civilizations that don't adapt to those immutable truths of God always fail. Miserably they fail, and civilizations fall. People die off. They fail to survive because they have not adapted.

There is a lot of human pride behind this controversy.

181 posted on 04/19/2008 1:26:28 AM PDT by Finny (Democrats play Big Mommies. Liberal Republicans play Big Daddies. Conservatives are the adults.)
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