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Oh Lord, Let It Not Be John McCain - A NonRinos's Prayer (Vanity)
JoeClarke.Net ^ | 02/04/2008 | JoeClarke.Net

Posted on 02/04/2008 2:39:42 PM PST by joeclarke

Yet, if he is the Repub's candidate, please, give me the strength to vote for him.

Yes, Senator McCain is better than Hillary and Obama, but has our country slidden so far left that we can do no better than this Bob Dole redux?

The NY Times loves him. Arnold loves him. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe love him. Talk about bad company. The past performance of John McCain as war hero does not indicate his future success as President of the United States.

Unfortunately, as a former Catholic and long time Bapticostal, I was mostly taught that Mormonism was a "cult." This undoubtedly hurt Mitt right out of the chute. The more, however, I delve into the doctrinal intricacies of some non-Mormon denominations, they could also be accused of doing some really weird things which I will not go into now. Would Romney bring these cultic(?) practices into the White House? Would hidden holy underwear be a great bother to his performance? Bill Clinton brought in a whole lot more in the form of his bacchanalian rituals which provoked incoming President Bush to fumigate and replace carpeting. Its fair to assume, though, that Clinton was a Bino - Baptist in Name Only. Could Romney, as has been taught by my fellow fundamentalists, really be Satan's representative? I think not, and the more I compare Romney with the Episcopalian turned Baptist (he has not been fully immersed, yet, which is obviously very important to Baptists) McCain, old Mitt is looking much better.

As of now, on the eve of Super Tuesday, I am in Mitt's corner, and not because of the shrill, super conservatives who have been boring me to death on talk radio with the McCain badgering.

Scariest of all - McCain has pledged to "reach across the aisle" to Democrats. What, the Dems can never reach across to Republicans? John McCain has too many negatives on immigration, taxation, freedom of speech retarded by McCain-Feingold, objections to oil drilling in Alaska, hoodwinked by the global warming scare tactic people, treating terrorists like "average American Joes" in Gitmo and elsewhere, allowing Dems to deter judicial nominees, and Clintonesque temper tantrums.

Despite his foibles, I generally have liked John McCain for his heroism and so-so conservative voting record. [I would take anyone over Hillary and Obama at this point]

Let this cup of John McCain for president pass, oh Lord. Amen.


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To: GOP Poet

AMEN


41 posted on 02/04/2008 3:20:09 PM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: SoConPubbie
But nice try at smearing Reagan to make an excuse for your FAUX-conservative of a candidate.

You missed the point clean. Re-read the post.

42 posted on 02/04/2008 3:20:33 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

you most be a product of the NEA. Think before you speak.


43 posted on 02/04/2008 3:20:40 PM PST by bgierhart (I stand behind my President)
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To: arturo
Ah, so your view is that the will of God for an individual is best determined by you, and not between God and that particular individual. Interesting take!

Show me EXAMPLES from the Bible where God called a man to Lead and then took that calling away without that man doing anything sinful!
44 posted on 02/04/2008 3:22:37 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: bgierhart
where in the Bible does it mention the Anti-Christian Cult?

Try Galatians, Chapter 1, and see what it says.

45 posted on 02/04/2008 3:25:20 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: GunsareOK

A few names that I can think of that fit Juan McPain better then Maverick, is #1 Schmuck and A-Hole. I think that fits him to a tea!


46 posted on 02/04/2008 3:29:04 PM PST by rodeo-mamma
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To: joeclarke
Amen!!!
47 posted on 02/04/2008 3:29:48 PM PST by TigersEye (McCain is unfit for office. See my profile page.)
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To: bgierhart
I'll repeat it for you, since you apparent have your cranium impacted in your lower intestinal tract...

Prayers that it is NOT that sleazy, lying, no good, bribing, party-destroying Massachusetts liberal Joe Isuzu Romney !

48 posted on 02/04/2008 3:29:58 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: arturo; Reagan Man
You missed the point clean. Re-read the post.

I missed nothing.

The same slimy approach was used by both the RudyBots and MittBots early in the campaign and it was easily disputed as well.

If you are standing by your statement, prove your point!

Post examples of where you think Ronald Reagan was so liberal. Oh, and by the way, the Abortion thing has already been done to death and counterpointed. So before you present that as evidence, you might want to do some research here at FreeRepublic because if you present it again, I am sure someone will refute the mis-characterization.
49 posted on 02/04/2008 3:30:56 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: fieldmarshaldj

That is romney allright, Flip Flop Chamleon man.


50 posted on 02/04/2008 3:31:26 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I will pray for you that the NEA will change their litature, so you may see clearly.


51 posted on 02/04/2008 3:32:18 PM PST by bgierhart (I stand behind my President)
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To: SoConPubbie
Show me EXAMPLES from the Bible where God called a man to Lead and then took that calling away without that man doing anything sinful!

You truly have an immature spiritual understanding of how God works. There are numerous examples in the Bible where the Lord calls folks to head in different directions from where their lives have previously been.

It is incredibly silly to maintain that just because the Lord may call someone to be a preacher at one point in his life, it is prohibitive for the Lord to call him to be something else at another point. By maintaining this position, what you are actually trying to do is place limitations on the sovereignty of God, and saying that once God calls a person to do a certain thing, he is unable to call him to do something else. Think about it.

52 posted on 02/04/2008 3:32:26 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: SoConPubbie
If Reagan wasn't conservative for you,

I loved Reagan and voted for him. But he wouldn't be "conservative" by today's definition. Even so-- he was the right man at the right place and time. We forget that.

His massive amnesty for illegals, his tripling of the federal budget, his nomination of liberal judges like O'connor and Souter... his abandonment of Lebanon... and more... if FreeRepublic had existed in the 80's we'd have ripped him apart as a RINO.

His rhetoric was good, and he was EXACTLY the man we needed at the time, but he wasn't even as conservative as GWB in the way that he actually governed, in many ways.

We forget sometimes that it is the times that make the man moreso than the man who makes the times. Sometimes we care too much about a candidate's past, when it is what they actually do in office that matters, and many times it may be different than we fear.

53 posted on 02/04/2008 3:34:25 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

RealClearPolitics Poll Averages SM
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MCCAIN 2008

Republican Presidential NominationPoll Date McCain Romney Huckabee Paul Spread
RCP Average 01/30 to 02/03 42.8% 24.5% 17.9% 6.0% McCain +18.3%
CNN 02/01 - 02/03 44% 29% 18% 6% McCain +15.0%
Cook/RT Strategies 01/31 - 02/02 39% 24% 18% 6% McCain +15.0%
Pew Research 01/30 - 02/02 42% 22% 20% 5% McCain +20.0%
USA Today/Gallup 01/30 - 02/02 42% 24% 18% 5% McCain +18.0%
CBS News 01/30 - 02/02 46% 23% 12% 9% McCain +23.0%
ABC/Wash Post 01/30 - 02/01 48% 24% 16% 7% McCain +24.0%
FOX News 01/30 - 01/31 48% 20% 19% 5% McCain +28.0%
Rasmussen (Mon) 4 Day Tracking 33% 30% 22% 5% McCain


54 posted on 02/04/2008 3:35:23 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: OPS4

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/


55 posted on 02/04/2008 3:36:21 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: SoConPubbie
Oh, and by the way, the Abortion thing has already been done to death and counterpointed.

Frankly, I don't care how much it's been "done to death." The fact is, you can take several things from Reagan's record, like raising taxes, increasing spending, and yes - abortion - and spin the hell out of them like Rush et al have been doing to make him look bad if you so desired. The Rushes, Hannitys, Ingrahams, and folks here in like manner have also "done to death" the records of various candidates whose degree of conservatism they happen to disagree with.

56 posted on 02/04/2008 3:36:52 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Ramius

This thread was never about Reagan.


57 posted on 02/04/2008 3:36:52 PM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: bmwcyle

Oh.


58 posted on 02/04/2008 3:37:52 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius
I loved Reagan and voted for him. But he wouldn't be "conservative" by today's definition. Even so-- he was the right man at the right place and time. We forget that....

You're absolutely right. If people looked at things objectively, they would have to admit that.

59 posted on 02/04/2008 3:39:16 PM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The same for McCain. Amen!


60 posted on 02/04/2008 3:40:17 PM PST by TigersEye (McCain is unfit for office. See my profile page.)
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