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To: kevkrom
That’s going to be the rub in all this and make a negotiated plan the only possible winner.

Self deportation will happen with enforcement, and people will not notice....

Deporting those caught in the commission of a crime, hell everyone can agree to chuck them over the border. Who cares...

But if we start rounding up entire families, it will play on endless loop on the MSM. Then add the ACLU and activist challenging every single deportation through every court in the land. And that is before the cost of the LEO and facilities and logistical support. The general populace will not have the stomach for it after the first year, then where are we. The Dems throw open the gates and we keep the all the ones still here, crooks and all.

We have an opportunity here to beat the dems at their own game, cut their “you guys are bigots” crap off at the knees by saying “ok, here is the deal, we will keep the few million that really want to work and we need to fill those jobs others wont do etc. you back us up on the fence, enforcement and the deportation of the rest” Guess what party those few million remaining hard working soon to be new Americans, who are for the most part devote catholics, pro life and paying taxes will be beholden too. Hit them up with fines, that they will gladly pay to stay, to help defray the cost of deporting their worthless friends.

I say do it, it has never stopped the Democrats before. Why do you think this country is where it is now after they bought all those votes over the past few decades.

89 posted on 10/23/2007 8:47:06 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: ejonesie22

“But if we start rounding up entire families, it will play on endless loop on the MSM. Then add the ACLU and activist challenging every single deportation through every court in the land. And that is before the cost of the LEO and facilities and logistical support. The general populace will not have the stomach for it after the first year, then where are we.”

Good points. But I say put the greatest onus on the employers through fines and penalties. That, more than anything will bring about the attrition Thompson says he desires. Give employers the option of notifying and obtaining verification from the Feds of those employees who they have reason to believe may be illegal. We can even save several billion on the fence and world condemnation that goes with it.

This will be about the attrition without breaking down doors which nobody will approve.


100 posted on 10/23/2007 8:56:44 AM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: ejonesie22

“But if we start rounding up entire families, it will play on endless loop on the MSM. Then add the ACLU and activist challenging every single deportation through every court in the land. And that is before the cost of the LEO and facilities and logistical support. The general populace will not have the stomach for it after the first year, then where are we.”

Good points. But I say put the greatest onus on the employers through fines and penalties. That, more than anything will bring about the attrition Thompson says he desires. Give employers the option of notifying and obtaining verification from the Feds of those employees who they have reason to believe may be illegal. We can even save several billion on the fence and world condemnation that goes with it.

This will be about the attrition without breaking down doors which nobody will approve.


101 posted on 10/23/2007 8:56:46 AM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: ejonesie22

Many here won’t be able to grasp that sort of big-picture, goal-oriented thinking you know.....


104 posted on 10/23/2007 8:58:21 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Fred '08 Because our troops DESERVE BETTER than Mrs. Bill Clinton.)
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To: ejonesie22

“The general populace will not have the stomach for it (deportation) after the first year,”

The Democrats won’t, but not the general populace.
You’re thinking of the party group-think that sees life as one Hollywood movie after another: conservatives: `The Handmaid’s Tale’; nuclear war: `The Day After’; global warming: ‘The Day After Tomorrow’; deporting illegal aliens (`fugees’): `Children of Men’.
Most Americans want them drop-kicked out asap. Period. They won’t be herded together in concentration camps. I’m thinking a slow freighter to Gitmo, then an open gate to Cuba.
Let their buddies take care of them: many Mexicans vacation in Mexico, and their country can ship them home, if it wants, and start paying some of their freight.


127 posted on 10/23/2007 9:29:49 AM PDT by tumblindice ("Si, se puede!")
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To: ejonesie22
But if we start rounding up entire families, it will play on endless loop on the MSM.

Not necessary, as you already mentioned. Cutting off the jobs and free handouts will create a self-imposed mass exodus.
162 posted on 10/23/2007 10:31:54 AM PDT by CottonBall
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