Posted on 09/22/2007 8:03:54 AM PDT by beltfed308
ST. GEORGE — A police officer who was recorded berating a motorist earlier this month has lost his job.
The board of aldermen voted 5-0, with one member absent, to fire Sgt. James Kuehnlein on Monday. The vote was cast in a session closed to the public and wasn't announced until Wednesday, when a notice was posted at the City Hall of this tiny south St. Louis County community.
In a video that got wide viewership on the Internet, Kuehnlein taunts and threatens motorist Brett Darrow, 20, sometimes shouting and using profanity, after questioning him in a commuter lot near Interstate 55. Darrow posted the footage of the Sept. 7 incident on the web.
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Well, even if that were true, at least it would be covered by insurance. :D
I mean, come on. Us firefighters have to stick together. Nobody likes a rat.
"no wonder why it's department policy for police officer's to guard the dwelling and property of DOA's when the FD responds.
You only go in to "guard the dwelling and property" after we let you go in.
way to stick up for grand larceny, though. keep teaching that next generation of firefighters!
;D
Is it legal or illegal for a police officer to shake a down a drug dealer?
we don't take things that don't belong to us, either.
In the case of shaking down drug dealers, I would think it must be a somewhat common occurence for your department to have a policy that specifically deals with the issue. From your #536 -
evidence of shaking down drug-dealers? we are "strongly encouraged," not required to report that. most likely that would be taken care of in-house, but also perhaps reported to the immediate supervisor.
If it is illegal, why would the department not require reporting it?
"way to stick up for grand larceny, though"
Why not, you're sticking up for a cop who lies and threatens to fabricate charges.
Yeah. We hear that crap often. Facts are, it's more dangerous being a cab driver in most cities than it is being a cop.
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i just looked through my dept manual. the language "strongly encouraged" pertains to turning in other officer's who are guilty of workplace violations such as displaying offensive, sexual materials and the like. you are not required to turn another cop in for that. supervisors are required to if they know who did it.
i could not find the language pertaining to what is required if you suspect another officer of a penal law crime. logic would dictate a legal course of action. but i can't find that procedure right now. 3000 pages is hard to look through. sorry for the confusion!
will somebody please show this gentlemen the literally DOZENS of posts where i have said this cop did wrong? my departure from the masses here is when i say the initial stop was good and the kid was wrong for going out looking to get messed with. that’s all.
That sounds like a Duncan line.
police officer's have the only job in the world where, in peace time, death results from gunshot wounds.
death in those other jobs you listed, while dangerous, result from accidents. although the numbers don't lie, i do see a distinction.
The only job? 7-11 clerks don’t count?
Bene Gesserit Credo.
Are you sure that 7-11 clerks and cabbies die from flowers and niceness?
From the same page I got the previous stats from: http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/03/0903worksafe.html
The most common cause of death on the job in 2000, however, was the car accident, accounting for 23% of the total. Even police officers were slightly more likely to die behind the wheel than by homicide.
I don't really see a distinction. Cops have a job to do. Though it can occasionally be dangerous, no one makes them do it. I'm sorry, but I've run into too many cops in my life who are nothing more than bullies with badges and guns for me to put them on a pedistal, or in fact, cut them any slack at all when they step over the line. We citizens have rights, and from my, and apparently others posting on this thread's perspectives, we see all too often that stickling up for them, like Darrow did by asking why the cop was questioning him, will result in a cop getting upset and riled up beyond any sense of proportion because they feel like they are being 'dissed'.
It's a sad state of affairs, and one I don't see changing as long as police think of themselves as paramilitary 'law enforcement officers', rather than keepers of the peace. Many of us see cops as nothing but revenue generators for various government bodies. They certainly aren't on our side.
151 cops, including feds, were killed in 2000 according to the National Law Enforcement Memorial assn. I don’t know the number of total LE in the country so I don’t know what the ratio would be, though one site listed 940,000 “employees”. Not sure what they are counting there.
Cool. It's been more than 15 years since I've read the original Dune books. I think I read 4 of them before I gave up. :-)
Oh, don’t give up. Break em out and try them again. Aside from J.R.R. Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings, the Dune series is in my opinion one of the best works of Sci-Fi ever written or will be written. Unfortunately they made a less than stellar movie out of it.
And he’s far from the worst example of a bad cop. In the town I grew up in, kids that smarted off to cops sometimes ended up getting mysteriously injured.
ya know, getting locked-up for literally no reason. cops inventing charges, impounding cars, random beatings.
the fact is that for the normal citizen, police are a necessary part of life, but they are to be ignored and avoided if possible. people don't want to see cops eat, sleep, yawn, laugh, chew gum, smoke. actually, they don't want to see cops at all unless cops are needed. which is fine, i guess.
aside from perhaps a traffic stop once every few years, you would be hard pressed to find people on this board who have routine run-ins with police, let alone truly negative run-ins. unless police interactions are part of their professional life for some reason.
as for 7-11 clerks and cabbies, getting shot is the result of a criminal act perpetrated upon them, not an active part of their job description.
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” - William Pitt the Younger, British Prime Minister 1783-1801
“Brett, how many hours of not being stopped by the police have you recorded?”
Thousands. When the camera gets full, I just hit delete and a few seconds later, it’s ready to record again.
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