Posted on 08/07/2007 7:36:00 AM PDT by Calpernia
You claim distortions of Fred’s record as proof of “lies” or malfeasance. Yet what do you call the counter distortions? It is a fact that GOA’s report card has several items that Fred voted on in the “anti-gun” column. It is a fact that a couple of those have to do with anti-terror laws, which most conservatives would side with Fred.
It is also a fact that several of the other votes rated “anti-gun” have nothing to do with anti-terror or “national security”. Some have to do with his crusade for CFR that gutted the GOA’s ability to speak freely at times, others with appointments he approved and others were just nibbling gun control for gun controls sake such as the Lautenberg bill.
If the pubbies are putting up a batch of libs and moderates, its his job as a conservative to say so and to tell folks who the conservatives in the race are. At least it should be. If his inaction and silence helps Rudy skate thru, then he’s certainly not helping the conservative cause.
Your comments are well thought out and presented. I will look forward to discussions on other issues of mutual interest. While we will not always agree, perhaps we can at least provide some illumination for a few of those issues.
Look at this thread to see the damage done by posters who spread lies and distortions:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1878645/posts
sitetest
Thanks. I appreciate your thoughts and insights, as well.
“While we will not always agree, perhaps we can at least provide some illumination for a few of those issues.”
I hope so. A pleasure to discuss stuff with you.
sitetest
What if he badmouths a candidate and that candidate still gets the nomination? How about if he endorses a candidate and that candidate doesn’t get the nomination? What if he gives a candidate the nod and that candidate gets the nomination? How is any of this going to help America or Mr. Limbaugh? His job is not to be King-maker for the Republican party. His job is to entertain us by bringing his insight and philosophy to the news of the day. He has not shied away from exposing Rudy’s flaws, but neither does he want him weakened if he is the nominee. You seem to think Rush OWES your candidate something. He doesn’t.
As a consumer of his product, I make my opinion known. If he supports RINOS or does not oppose them, whether they win or lose is besides the point.
Conservatives should advance not only conservative ideas, but should oppose non-conservative candidates. Rush says he’s not carrying water for the GOP, so why act as if all candidates are equally valid. After the nomination is made, its too late to squawk about it.
It’s the same crew of folks who have been getting the vapors over my challenging Thompson since I first did it.
Some have even written the Hunter campaign to complain. ROFL!
Mr. Limbaugh owes your candidate (or any other) nothing.
Now I wish Hunter was polling 50% or higher. I like him, his history, his policy positions; etc. But it aint Mr. Limbaugh’s job to throw Hunter a life vest. He can either swim or sink on his own based upon his appeal to the American electorate.
It is his job to promote conservatism, self-described. He certainly has the freedom to say or not say anything, to promote or not to promote anyone. And I certainly have the freedom to urge him, like this author did, to get on Hunter’s bandwagon if he wants a return to Reaganism. If he doesn’t care, fine. If he just want the republican to win, no matter who, fine. Then he should retract his “done carrying water” comment.
Did you read the article in the thread?
So, you like the New York Times smearing Mr. Thompson by quoting Free Republic posters who spread lies?
sitetest
Could the confusion be the lack of a mamaged message from the Thompson campaign? Here is what Brietbart reported on July 24:
WASHINGTON (AP) - Republican presidential hopeful Fred Thompson is replacing his acting campaign manager with former senator and energy secretary Spencer Abraham and Florida GOP strategist Randy Enright.
Thompson spokeswoman Linda Rozett said acting campaign manager Tom Collamore, former vice president of food and tobacco giant Altria, still will advise the campaign. Collamore has helped organize the campaign for Thompson, who has not officially jumped into the race.
Thompson has established a “testing the waters” committee that allows him to raise money for a presidential bid. He is expected to formally kick off his candidacy in September.
“The Friends of Fred Thompson have made a number of changes as they prepare to enter the next phase, adding new experience and political strength to the organization,” Rozett said.
Enright has served as Florida regional political director for the Republican National Committee and was executive director of the Republican Party of Iowa and the Republican Party of Florida.
Abraham is a former Michigan senator who lost a bid for reelection in 2000 to Democratic Sen. Debbie Stabenow.
More:
Rozett (spokesbabe) said Enright and Abraham both would be in charge of Thompson’s campaign. Enright is heading the political operation and Abraham doesn’t yet have a title, Rozett said.
“Could the confusion be the lack of a mamaged message from the Thompson campaign? Here is what Brietbart reported on July 24:”
Not by the time of the disgusting posts by the FReepers on August 8.
By that time, the lie had been stomped down for over two weeks. But liars kept lying.
Does this not bother you?
sitetest
Rush Limbaugh endorses ideas not men. His non-endorsement of Hunter doesn’t mean he ‘doesn’t care’.
If you think he needs to turn EIB into the “Duncan Hunter Show” you are barking up the wrong tree Rush has never endorsed a candidate (AFAIK). I suppose the Ron Paul-ies think if Rush Limbaugh cared about the Constitution he would endorse Paul. But he isn’t about to throw his considerable weight either for or against a specific candidate. AINT GONNA HAPPEN.
Why not blame the spokeswoman for mis-speaking instead of freepers who may not have know that he is not a co-campaign manager.
Same with the abortion lobbying kerfuffle. Mismangaed badly by Fred’s camp.
No. He should do what Medved just did today. Have Hunter on for an hour.
And Limbaugh certainly endorses men. He was very pro-bush and anti-Mccain. Even if he did not offer an official “endoresment”.
At a minimum he should be full throated against Rudy as he is and has been against McCain.
I hope to see a Thompson/Hunter ticket for 08. Thompson only because he is the most palatable of the front-runners and Hunter because I agree with him.
Fine. We’ll leave it that.
That in a nutshell is where a lot of us stand.
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