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What's the Rush?
ProLifeblogs ^ | June 27 2007 | plb

Posted on 07/01/2007 3:27:40 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

Edited on 07/02/2007 4:50:59 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

That's the question Bobby Schindler asked in the case involving Jesse Ramirez, the Arizona man whose case paralleled that of Schindler's sister, Terri Schiavo, until Ramirez woke up. The Arizona Republic reports:

...Bobby Schindler of the Florida-based Terri Schindler Shiavo Foundation placed the blame on a medical establishment quick to dismiss patients with brain injuries.

Schindler is the brother of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged Florida woman who died in 2005 after a decades-long court battle.

"What is the rush?" he asked. "This is not the first time we've heard of cases like this where doctors want to write off the chance of recovery, and the family, when they're told this, will make a decision to end a person's life.

"In the case of Mr. Ramirez, he'd be dead now."

Why is Jesse alive? His family sought legal intervention with the help of the Alliance Defense Fund:
His siblings and parents refused to give him up for dead, and today, Jesse Ramirez is alive and conscious.

Two weeks ago, he was the center of a family battling over of whether he should live or die.

Now, he can hug and kiss, nod his head, answer yes and no questions, give a thumbs-up sign and sit in a chair.

Related:

A Miracle for Jesse Ramirez and His Family

Jesse Ramirez Conscious, Moved To Rehab Facility

Accident victim awakens


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KEYWORDS: civilrights; giannajessen; jebbush; jesseramirez; jgreer; medialies; parentsrights; schindler; terridailies; terrischiavo
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To: All; wagglebee
Wagglebee thread on Tiller the Killer...

Topeka, KS (LifeNews.com) -- Late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller may have violated a Kansas law saying that such abortions can only be done for legitimate health reasons and if two physicians sign off on them. Now that pro-abortion Attorney General Paul Morrison has charged him with 19 violations of the law, he's suing to overturn it.

As the first response to the new charges, attorneys for Tiller have filed a lawsuit claiming the Kansas law is unconstitutional. Tiller's attorneys argue that the provision of the law that requires two or more doctors to sign off on late-term abortions is invalid.

Abortion Practitioner George Tiller's Lawyers Challenge Law He Violated

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61 posted on 07/04/2007 4:16:18 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> She had been diagnosed as being in a persistent vegetative state and had been receiving nutrition and hydration through a tube since 1990, when she collapsed and suffered a brain injury.

Ah, reporters. Terri wasn't PVS. She didn't "collapse." This would be extremely rare from any imaginable cause.

We have looked at three "explanations" in another thread -- well, two lame stories; the third is nothing but empty rhetoric. One, "sudden arrhythmia death syndrome," SADS. This is a catch-all category for "we don't know what happened" cases. Even in autopsy studies, the medics couldn't figure out the cause of death. 30 unexplained deaths per year for all U.S. females from ages 15 to 34. It calculated to 1 in 2,500,000. If anyone wants to bet against those odds, we will remind you why lotteries are a tax on the stupid.

Two, Seldane interaction. Even rarer, though we haven't finished the calculation. Seldane is an antihistamine introduced in 1985, useful for not causing drowsiness, and used by hundreds of millions of people worldwide. It can cause serious or fatal heart arrhythmias in certain very rare cases involving liver disease or interaction with erythromycin or anti-fungal drugs. In twelve years of use by many millions of people, it was linked to 40 severe reactions (eight of them fatal). In the five years before Terri's injuries, only one problem was reported for the whole country. And in the 12 years, only one bad reaction was found at a normal dose with no other drug involved. (In contrast, plain old aspirin kills 500 people a year according to one estimate I found.) Seldane was replaced in 1997 by a chemical cousin that did not have the drug interactions. Terri had a prescription for Seldane at one point, but was no longer taking it at the time of her injury (according to Michael himself), nor taking any other medication that would have reacted with it. It's a fairy tale to blame Terri's cardiac arrest on drugs she wasn't taking -- especially when her injuries occurred during a big fight with Michael.

Third -- deny, deny, deny. No cause offered, just chant "you don't have any facts." The visitors deny that a nearly dead body on the hallway floor is evidence. But they are happy to believe millions-to-one fantasies about how she got there. That is obsession.

Domestic violence is the number one cause of death and injury to young women. That, of course, is the one thing that the visitors will not look at -- even though Terri is known to have suffered her injuries during a fight with Michael. The fight was so bad, a girl friend offered Terri shelter that night -- from Michael. Too bad Terri didn't go! A few hours later she was found on the hallway floor, all but dead. The only suspect is Michael. He lied about what happened and he has no alibi.

62 posted on 07/04/2007 4:30:19 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Todd Gitlin?! He was a leader in the New Left in the 1960s. Still at it :-) It’s a hoot when a lifelong leftist ideologue accuses anyone else of being a prisoner of ideology.


63 posted on 07/04/2007 4:36:11 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: bjs1779; BykrBayb; T'wit; floriduh voter; wagglebee
If you haven't yet checked out this post #52 of information given to me by wagglebee, I hope you all get a chance to read this article by HLI.

SPECIAL REPORT
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64 posted on 07/04/2007 4:42:19 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> "Abortion Practitioner George Tiller's Lawyers Challenge Law He Violated"

Now you listen here, God. We find your commandment "Thou shall not kill" to be unconstitutionally vague in its wording and too broad in application. Besides, you have no standing in this court. You can't just go around telling people not to kill babies. We are having all ten of your Commandments thrown out by the first judge we can find who takes bribes.

65 posted on 07/04/2007 4:42:33 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Getting injected with dead babies is a bit too cannibalistic for my tastes.


66 posted on 07/04/2007 4:44:55 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: T'wit

Libs think they can outvote God because He has only three votes, or one, depending...


67 posted on 07/04/2007 4:52:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit

I cannot think of any acts more Satanic than this, right out of the playbook, Evil for Dummies...


68 posted on 07/04/2007 4:54:17 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; 8mmMauser

Don’t know if you saw this, for those who are interested in Duncan Hunter:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1860339/posts?q=1&;page=1


69 posted on 07/04/2007 6:00:37 AM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there. http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: All

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!


70 posted on 07/04/2007 6:11:13 AM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there. http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: 8mmMauser

Refresh my memory. Didn’t the Nazis require three doctors to sign off on euthanasia?


71 posted on 07/04/2007 10:26:34 PM PDT by BykrBayb (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
From my memory of the film of Sophie Scholl, that was what it took. No guarantee on my memory unless/until I rewatched it on DVD again, but I was impressed that the Nazi's were more concerned than some sanctioned killers in America these days. I keep getting tiller and killer mixed up in my mind.

"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest."

72 posted on 07/05/2007 3:44:57 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Carrie K. Hutchens sounds off on Jesse Ramirez and Terri on the Dakota Voice. Recommend reading the whole article...

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I was reading ABC News', "Pulling the Plug: Ethicists Debate Ramirez Case",  by Dan Childs, ABC News Medical Unit (June 28, 2007) and found it interesting how the defense is still up. No case is ever like Terri Schiavo's. There is always an alleged difference, with similarities downplayed or outright denied. Might that be because people are starting to realize that an innocent woman was wrongly starved and dehydrated to death, like Jesse Ramirez almost was?

We do have it right in our face that the law does not have true safeguards in place. Had the Ramirez family not stepped in, Jesse Ramirez would most likely not be with us today, let alone sitting up in his bed and interacting with people. It doesn't even matter if Rebecca Ramirez was basing her decision upon incomplete information the doctors provided. It shouldn't be that easy to make a mistake. After all, this type of mistake is beyond serious -- not an Oops! It is forever and someone is dead!

There are several issues at hand.

Childs writes, "The injuries Ramirez sustained in his accident were traumatic in nature, meaning that the shock of impact likely ripped apart some of the fragile connections in his brain, leading to his coma. "These injuries, on occasion, can heal to a certain extent, allowing the patient to recover functionality. This is far different from the damage caused by anoxia, in which a lack of oxygen to the brain causes irreparable brain damage. Those who suffer this type of damage, including Schiavo, have a much slimmer chance of ever regaining consciousness. "...................................................................

Claim: Jesse Ramirez Case Unlike Terri Schiavo's

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73 posted on 07/05/2007 3:50:36 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
This appears in an Australian publication, BioEdge.

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Eighteen days after his wife instructed doctors to withdraw food and water, an Arizona man has awakened from a coma. Jesse Ramirez Jr, 36, had suffered brain injuries in an accident on May 30. Only few days later, on June 8, his wife Rebecca had his feeding tubes removed. However, his parents and his sister fought this decision in the courts and on June 13 he was reconnected. Now he is sitting up in a hospital bed, giving a thumb-up sign to visitors and giving hugs and kisses. His doctors had predicted that he would be blind and would remain in a permanent vegetative state.

A spouse feuding with in-laws over a comatose patient -- it is difficult to avoid comparing the plight of Jesse Ramirez with Florida woman Terri Schiavo. However, in this case, Mrs Ramirez freely admits that her relationship with her husband was strained. In fact, it was during a fierce quarrel that their SUV overturned. She escaped with minor injuries and he ended up in a coma with a broken neck and head trauma. She told police that he had suspected her of infidelity and became enraged. As part of a settlement with her in-laws, Mrs Ramirez has transferred care of her husband to a court-appointed guardian. ~ USA Today, Jun 26

HASTY DECISIONS IN ARIZONA COMA CASE

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74 posted on 07/05/2007 3:56:14 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> I was impressed that the Nazi's were more concerned than some sanctioned killers in America these days.

Actually, they were, and that film was based on the original notes of the Nazi interrogator. OUTSTANDING movie!!

75 posted on 07/05/2007 3:57:09 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: All; floriduh voter; amdgmary; wagglebee; BykrBayb; T'wit; bjs1779
From the Alligator, a Clearwater parts harvest. Alligator or crock, you decide...

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Photo
Photo Courtesy of the Crane Family
Henry Crane, left, is pictured here with his mother, LeeAnn, and brother Austin. Crane was hit by a car on Archer Road while riding his bicycle on Tuesday.

The friends and family of Henry Crane, a UF chemistry senior, said he was always ready to help people.

Now, even on life support, he's still helping.

Crane, 21, was cycling on Archer Road near Shands at UF when a car struck him at about 9 a.m. Tuesday. The Clearwater native planned to pursue a graduate degree in sports management.

Henry's mother, LeeAnn Crane, said he was taken to Shands' Surgical Intensive Care Unit with severe head, brain and spinal injuries. As of Wednesday evening, Shands medical staff was arranging recipients for Crane's organs. Crane's family members said he would be taken off life support early this morning.

After the crisis over Terri Schiavo, Crane decided to create a living will at the age of 19. It was a comfort, Crane's mother said, because the family could follow his wishes exactly.

"Henry did not want to live in a body that didn't function," she said. "His life blessed those who knew him, and now he will bless those who receive his gifts of life."

His mother said the outpour of support from Crane's friends was overwhelming.................................

Student's will aids in life or death decision

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76 posted on 07/05/2007 4:05:34 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit

Outstanding movie is right, and available on DVD.


77 posted on 07/05/2007 4:06:44 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
More from Australia, by way of Steven Ertelt of LifeNews...

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Canberra, Australia (LifeNews.com) -- New draft guidelines in Australia put together by a national health committee say that comatose and incapacitated patients like Terri Schiavo should not be denied food and water. The new guidelines are voluntary and are aimed at helping health care workers and families.

A committee of the National Health and Medical Research Council published the guidelines which say that medical personnel should presume that a patient wants food and water when their decision is unknown.

That was the problem in the Terri Schiavo case -- her family and former husband Michael disagreed about whether she would want nutrition provided. Courts ultimately sided with Michael and Terri died after a painful 13-day starvation and dehydration death.

The council also stressed the importance of communication between doctors and patients and families to help avoid disagreements.

According to a report in The Australian newspaper, the guidelines say that stopping food and water should only be considered when it is causing medical complications for the patient "such as respiratory infections because of food being breathed into the lungs."
The issue is "never whether the patient's life is worthwhile, but whether a treatment is worthwhile" the guidelines say................................

Australia Draft Guidelines Favor Feeding Patients Like Terri Schiavo

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78 posted on 07/05/2007 4:10:11 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Once more from Australia, with a caveat about writer bias...

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DRAFT guidelines intended to head off any repeat in Australia of the 2005 legal battle over the fate of US brain-damaged patient Terri Schiavo have been published by the nation's top health standards body.

The guidelines, compiled by a committee of the National Health and Medical Research Council, say there should be a presumption in favour of continuing feeding.

They stress the importance of communication between doctors and families to avoid disagreements.

Schiavo, who had been in a persistent vegetative state since 1990, hit world headlines in 2005 after her case was dragged through the US Congress and courts amid a bitter dispute between her husband and her Catholic parents over whether to withdraw her feeding tube.

She was eventually allowed to die in March 2005 after the US Supreme Court declined to intervene.

'Keep feeding coma patients'

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79 posted on 07/05/2007 4:14:21 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Coleus; BykrBayb; monomaniac
Thread from monomaniac on the Katrina Killing... Thanks Coleus and BykrBayb.

New Orleans, LA (LifeNews.com) -- Two nurses accused of euthanizing patients in the wake of Hurricane Katrina have seen the charges against them dropped by the district attorney in the case. Nurses Lori Budo and Cheri Landry were arrested along with physician Anna Pou on charges that they killed four patients. All three worked at New Orleans' Memorial Medical Center at the time of the hurricane.

The three were accused of killing as many as nine patients so they could relinquish their responsibility for patients and flee the hospital as conditions there deteriorated.

Prosecutors Drop Murder Charges Against Two Hurricane Katrina Nurses

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80 posted on 07/05/2007 4:26:18 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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