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Student Removed from High School after Making a Map of His School in Counter-Strike
Advanced Media Network ^ | 2007-05-02 | Matthew Wirgler

Posted on 05/02/2007 1:43:04 PM PDT by www.saveourguns.org

A senior from a Texas high school will not be going to his graduation ceremony after designing 3D levels of his school in a shooting game.

Officers came into his home and reportedly found five swords which they deemed a level 3 terrorist threat. Since then, the unnamed man had been transferred to an "alternate education facility"

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KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; publikskoolz; school; terrorism; terrorist
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To: sbMKE; Pilsner

Red Dawn...the first movie ever to receive a PG-13 rating.


61 posted on 05/02/2007 2:29:06 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: knarf

Fair enough.
Some games have hospitals in them.
Soldier of Fortune 2: Double Helix had an entire level happening in a hospital.
(Note: Good guys win despite having a loss or three.)

Non-gamers can follow links below to be selectively outraged.
http://soldieroffortune2.filefront.com/files/Soldier_of_Fortune_2/Maps;819
http://soldieroffortune2.filefront.com/info/MapPacks
http://doom3.filefront.com/files/;4070
http://quake4.filefront.com/files/Quake_4/Maps;3869
http://halflife2.filefront.com/files/Counter-Strike_Source/Maps;4815
http://halflife2.filefront.com/files/Half-Life_2/Maps;2495
http://battlefield2.filefront.com/files/Battlefield_2/Maps;6529


62 posted on 05/02/2007 2:31:15 PM PDT by Darksheare (She had the face of a trucker. She used it as a purse.)
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To: www.saveourguns.org

I remember designing a Doom map that was the layout of my highschool. No sinister intent, and my friends got a kick out of it when we would play it on a LAN. Apparantly its a good thing no authority types found out, otherwise I could have been shipped out to a special “reeducation” facility. Apparantly checking your brain at the door is a prereq to being a school administrator nowadays.


63 posted on 05/02/2007 2:31:29 PM PDT by somniferum (Annoy a liberal.. Work hard and be happy.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“Proving that if you really want to stop the terrorist threat, you should make the mob mad at them.”

Are you implying that Democrats are tough on defense?


64 posted on 05/02/2007 2:31:35 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: www.saveourguns.org

A “level 3 terrorist threat”? Is that like double-secret probation?

LOL skool “cops”


65 posted on 05/02/2007 2:31:53 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: www.saveourguns.org

brought to you by the Department of Pre-Crime.


66 posted on 05/02/2007 2:33:46 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: sbMKE

Detention (2003)

Hamilton High is no place for a teacher who cares. Teacher Sam Decker doesn’t care anymore. He’s quitting. Sam marks his last day in the battleground of public education by getting saddled with the detention class after hours, playing warden to a pack of rebellious students, the worst troublemakers in school. But Hamilton High is about to become an all too real battleground when a well-organized group of killers armed with automatic weapons and explosives invade the supposedly deserted school after hours to use it as an operating base for a meticulously planned armored car robbery. Led by the brilliant and sadistic Chester Lamb, the invaders are surprised to discover that Sam and the kids from the detention room are still inside the school. The hunt is on as the killers ruthlessly stalk the teacher and students through the school’s halls and classrooms, while Lamb tracks them on the surveillance cameras, turning the school’s security system against his prey. But Sam Decker still has a few tricks to teach the kids, and he’s got some things to learn from them. Tonight at Hamilton High, the lesson is survival.


67 posted on 05/02/2007 2:37:12 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: www.saveourguns.org

Did these cops take their law enforcement training from the movie, “Minority Report”?
Thought police with the ability to arrest before a crime is committed.


68 posted on 05/02/2007 2:38:05 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: www.saveourguns.org

I think fy_iceworld is based on some school in Alaska. I hear the map author looks just like “Leet Krew”, oh noes!!!!


69 posted on 05/02/2007 2:38:37 PM PDT by CaliGangsta
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To: www.saveourguns.org

We’re all so sensitive, vain, and will start watching “males” (you know—like members of the animal kingdom) in our own populace more closely.

Our policies on defense have changed. After Iraq, we’re no longer going to take the fight to the enemy or rely so much on soldiers trained to fight as soldiers. That’s very obvious to us now. Our leadership has been badgered out of going into Iran.

Instead, we’re going to have more police with more surveillance gadgets to arrest a very few of the “perps” who are settling in to our own nation. ...and any citizens who make our sensitive superiors feel offended.

We shouldn’t unnecessarily make 3-D game developers angry, BTW. They are doing more advanced work than most of the more “educated” developers. With a little network package development experience, they could be real pills and cause any blame for their mischief to be assigned to innocents (spoofs, revised code for logs in packages, the intentional sendmail hole,...).

And on the school plan, security through obscurity doesn’t work. Any real student threat would be concealed from authorities and wouldn’t be caught. When real threats become imminent, combat engineers need to be brought into administration of security. Until then, hysteria needs to be avoided. Our future military strength (especially in a draft, after which soldiers do decide as to whether they’ll actually fight) will suffer from hysteria now.


70 posted on 05/02/2007 2:39:35 PM PDT by familyop (former cbt. engr. (cbt.))
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To: JillValentine

Check your mail please.


71 posted on 05/02/2007 2:39:42 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Article doesn’t say if the young man was arrested. I assume a level 3 terror threat is an arrestable offense.

This isn't much of an article. The Houston Croncile has a story here:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/4766843.html

No, he was not charged. A "level three terror threat" is not a legal term in Texas. The offense is Terroristic Threat

§ 22.07. Terroristic Threat

(a) A person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any person or property with intent to:

(1) cause a reaction of any type to his threat by an official or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies;

(2) place any person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury;

(3) prevent or interrupt the occupation or use of a building, room, place of assembly, place to which the public has access, place of employment or occupation, aircraft, automobile, or other form of conveyance, or other public place;

(4) cause impairment or interruption of public communications, public transportation, public water, gas, or power supply or other public service;

(5) place the public or a substantial group of the public in fear of serious bodily injury; or

(6) influence the conduct or activities of a branch or agency of the federal government, the state, or a political subdivision of the state.

(b) An offense under Subsection (a)(1) is a Class B misdemeanor.

(c) An offense under Subsection (a)(2) is a Class B misdemeanor, except that the offense is a Class A misdemeanor if the offense:

(1) is committed against a member of the person's family or household or o

therwise constitutes family violence; or (2) is committed against a public servant.

(d) An offense under Subsection (a)(3) is a Class A misdemeanor, unless the actor causes pecuniary loss of $1,500 or more to the owner of the building, room, place, or conveyance, in which event the offense is a state jail felony.

(e) An offense under Subsection (a)(4), (a)(5), or (a)(6) is a felony of the third degree.

(f) (deleted)

(g) For purposes of Subsection (d), the amount of pecuniary loss is the amount of economic loss suffered by the owner of the building, room, place, or conveyance as a result of the prevention or interruption of the occupation or use of the building, room, place, or conveyance.

Possibly "level three" meant (a)(3). Making a threat that causes the emptying of a High School is almost always a State Jail Felony, because when you add up the cost of the security response the school puts on, the salary paid to teachers and administrator who are not doing their regular job, food discrarded if cafeteria service is disrupted, and the like, and you get over $1,500 real fast.

I understand school officials are jumpy, but this makes schools look bad.

72 posted on 05/02/2007 2:40:02 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: www.saveourguns.org

That mass hysteria again. It sweeps the USA from time to time. Some people lose their ability to think clearly, and then do things that are irrational. This is an example of that “zero tolerance” foolishness.
Meanwhile, people who are really going to do something are not stopped.


73 posted on 05/02/2007 2:40:25 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftism is ..... see my user name.)
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To: knarf
What would YOU think if you found a shooting game on your son's or daughter's computer and your home was the floorplan?

I'd think about asking them if I could get the level on my own computer, and then play it against them.

74 posted on 05/02/2007 2:44:07 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: JillValentine
Red Dawn...the first movie ever to receive a PG-13 rating.

That was a darned good movie too, IMO.
75 posted on 05/02/2007 2:51:02 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: Strategerist

Hehe... well, to be honest, I’d let the kid know that unless they dramatically embellished the size of our house, its going to make a pretty poor FPS level. Drawing the whole block would be better ;)


77 posted on 05/02/2007 2:52:42 PM PDT by somniferum (Annoy a liberal.. Work hard and be happy.)
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To: www.saveourguns.org
Officers came into his home and reportedly found five swords which they deemed a level 3 terrorist threat.

And where exactly did they get a warrant signed for this B$?

I want my frakking country back.

78 posted on 05/02/2007 2:55:10 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Strategerist
"I'd think about asking them if I could get the level on my own computer, and then play it against them."

Waayyy back in 1981 I took a Greyhound from WV to Ariz. to visit my parents.

We stopped at Tulsa to hose the thing down (cross country bussers know this) ... and I whiled an hour of my time away playing PacMan (the only thing in the lounge and I only paid a quarter for all those games).

When I got back on the bus, I picked up the book I was reading before I disembarked and discovered I couldn't read from left to right. My eyes had an hour's worth of up, down, right, down, right, left, down, up, right ... etc .... and I couldn't read the book.

I fell asleep and awoke a couple of hours later.

That experience taught me .... taught me ... that what you do with your eyes is connected to what your brain is telling them to do.

I'd have a hard time thinking my child was thinking about how to kill me.

Or worse ... My thinking about how I'll kill him or her first.

War games are OK, fantasy games are OK, Tetrus is OK, etc ... but not a game about killing me.

OK ... I'm not here to fight with a freeper ... just my opinion ... I'd like to know more about this article, the kid and the school.

79 posted on 05/02/2007 2:57:28 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: knarf
War games are OK, fantasy games are OK, Tetrus is OK, etc ... but not a game about killing me.

The posited scenario was about a level in your house, not a level where the faces of parents were pasted on opposing figures.

Considering that between first-person shooters, board wargames, computer games (some involving nuking cities in Russia with ALCMs, etc.) I've probably killed a billion virtual people in my life, and personally in real life I've literally never even hit another person in anger, I'm a bit dubious at the freaking out that is going on.

80 posted on 05/02/2007 3:00:34 PM PDT by Strategerist
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