Posted on 04/10/2007 2:07:12 AM PDT by nancyvideo
“....there are some seriously fat people out there as well - people so fat they can barely walk anymore....”
A visit to Disney World confirmed that for me. The use of wheelchairs was astounding...and mostly for obese people as opposed to the disabled. A bit of excersise, like walking, would benefit most of those people.
Convenience foods typically cost more than making it from scratch. What "cheap" foods are you referring to?
They are loaded with high fructose corn syrup and trans-fats, and have carb counts vastly higher than the usual foods the upper-middle class on up eats.
Since the early 70's HFCS has replaced sugar by a nearly one-for-one basis. Where there was once (or would be) sugar, there is now HFCS. HFCS and sucrose are made up of the same two ingredients in almost identical proportions. They have essentially the same GI and their satiety profiles are almost identical. Trans-fats offer the same amount of calories per gram as all other fats. Trans-fats make up less than 2% of the average American's diet. Saturated fat, on the other hand, accounts for about 12-15% of the average American's diet. It makes a lot more sense to demonize saturated fat instead of trans-fat.
When they replaced sugar with HFCS, butter with trans-fats, and published the ridiculous food pyramid to boost Archer-Daniels-Midland's bottom line back in the early 70's, the obesity rates began to shoot up.
They replaced sugar with HFCS because the government forces food manufacturers to pay two to three times more for sugar than the rest of the world just to protect inefficient farmers. Trans fats came into prominence because the food police (CSPI), and their willing alarmists in the MSM, convinced people that saturated fats were detrimental to our health and that hydrogenated vegetable oils were the healthy alternative. The food industry, ADM included, simply reacted to these events.
Won't happen. Most 'PC nazi bureaucrats' are obese themselves.
Won't happen. Most 'PC nazi bureaucrats' are obese themselves.
Anyone see the “BS” episode on this subject?
The BMI was created by a sociologist to track whether people in certain classes tended to be overweight or underweight.
He didn’t even intend it to be a rock-solid model for obesity. Just a quick indicator.
And more than 100 years later, idiots take up this ancient SOCIOLOGICAL quickie measure as the way to test fatness.
I’m SHOCKED they don’t even have an adjustment for female vs. male, much less people of different builds. BMI is BS.
As for fat people, the show was pretty good. There is apparently no true indication that fat people are any more prone to “health problems” than thin.
Never mind that some people just have a genetic predisposition to fatness while others don’t (like me the latter).
Additionally, I like having fat people. It indicates we’re prosperous.
That’s what the man who “invented” BMI was aiming at - a class correlation.
But this is kind of funny. If “low class” are so poor, they should be skinny. In this country, not true. Which means the low class are getting too much money and doing too little - too many hand-outs.
Now, the TRULY poor you might find in the Ozarks and so on, who would be thin as well as feature other true markers of poverty (unlike the fat welfare class).
Excellent post.
Although I would point out, you are looking only at $ sign on the box when you talk about cheapness of convenient foods vs. scratch.
It is CHEAPER to “produce” those convenient foods - that “convenient” is the key word. You can make them in 5 min. all done rather than taking 2 hrs to make it. That’s where convenient foods are cheaper.
Exactly. Since when has weight shifted from a personal choice to a government responsibility?? I swear, this nanny state mentality is growing by leaps and bounds..and, like good little boys and girls, we all accept it. Aargh
I love your idea of having your kid do push-ups during video games. I may have to steal that one! My kids are string beans right now but having them build muscle can’t hurt! :o)
Wonder how many are Baby Boomer women entering the throes of menopause?
He straightened em out.
LOL! I’m afraid all my kids would have to start with the girl push ups. We all need to work on our upper body strength!!
All good points. Where I live (a big state), PE is basically gone. A respect for exercise is very important the older one gets. More access to high calorie foods with much less phyical labor is the main culprit imo.

Woohoo!!
In Wal-Mart they tend to ride around on those carts. It makes me sick to see younger people who are fat park in a standard/non handicapped parking place, walk inside without any problems, and get on one of those carts because they are just flat out too lazy to walk. The other day I saw a fat husband and wife both riding on them, with each of their carts full of junk food.
I've always wanted to catch one of those people and pull the cable on the battery when they aren't looking. I wonder if they would get off of the cart and walk away, or call out for help because they are stranded. lol
They know. They just don't want to know.
How many millions of times have I heard some fat person say, "I just can't take it off. I've tried everything," etc. etc. I always ask them, "How far did you walk this morning before you came to work? Two miles? Three?" I have never, ever, not one time in my life had a fat person say, "I walked three miles" or "I'm going to my bike 7 miles tonight after work." All I hear are excuses: they say, "Oh, exercise doesn't work for me," or "I can't do that stuff" or even, "I hate exercise." Well, okay, you hate exercise, but do you prefer diabetes? Would you like to keep your feet and your vision? Would you rather have heart attacks and death? I guess so.
The only morbidly obese person I ever knew who was truly willing to work to lose weight, a vast man who weighed more than 400 pounds, lost half of his body weight and saved his life. Every morning before work and every evening after work we saw him lumbering around our neighborhood, two miles each time. Eventually he was not lumbering but running. After that we didn't see him anymore because he was so slim we couldn't tell him from any of the other neighbors who were running.
Dieting and exercise works for everybody, sooner or later. Nobody came out of Auschwitz at 300 pounds.
That is great about that man. I bet others were inspired by him getting out and making a change like that. If it were not sad it would be funny-I have a neighbor who insists she cannot lose because she cannot bring herself to eat six times a day like her trainer brother and some books say to do. You know, to keep your digestion working. I admit I sit there and think to myself you do not see pictures of heavy war prisoners. True, they are not healthy either, but not heavy. But this lady is so educated I doubt she truly believes that. I guess that is my response to you in a nutshell. I do not accept that an educated, informed person honestly does not know it is calories in/energy out. I myself am constantly battling weight and it is the wrong food I love to eat. Yet if a stranger struck up a conversation with me and asked about it I may not empty my soul. I might very well brush it off by saying, oh, I do not know what is wrong, I try and try. All the time kicking myself inside.
I don’t have the strength of character to diet either. Like W.C. Fields, I can resist anything but temptation. This is particularly true as I’ve gotten into middle age. So I have to exercise a lot to keep the pounds from creeping on. Morning run, lunchtime walk, afternoon swim in the summer, nighttime jog with the dog on alternate nights and weights on alternate nights. In addition there’s housework, yardwork, chopping wood, riding horses. I seldom take an elevator and never walk slowly. You’d be surprised how much exercise you can fit in around an eight-hour workday. The best part is that real exercise suppresses the appetite as it burns calories.
Good luck.
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