I'm NOT a Rudy supporter... I'm just trying to get you to folks to undertstand that sitting out solves nothing.
***Looks like it would make a good tag line. Especially after looking at some of what you stir up on the Rudy threads.
I'm also firm in my belief that candidates are incapable of splitting a party.
***Oh, why didn't you say so, up front? You won't explore the analogy that I post, you're basically saying you won't listen because you're a "firm believer". If only we could get all of that out of the way then we wouldn't waste each other's time.
The only people who can split a party are the folks too stubborn to set aside their concerns (typically over a single issue) for the sake of the party.
***Here, let me stop wasting your time. I'm a firm believer in knowing that once someone shows they have no intention of exploring the issue, I can't debate on an intelligent level with them and I consider it to be a waste of time. Why on earth would you spend 7 years on a socon forum trying to convince socons that they look at things the wrong way? What's in it for you?
The party is split by the people who leave...it is 100% on thier shoulders. You will not change my mind on that point and you will not get me to accept any rationalization that justifies damaging the party.
***History would be the judge in that regard. When the Whig party broke up, it was the moralist anti-slavery wing of the party that carried it into the republican party and it was the reed-in-the-wind Whig lemmings like yourself who were credited with the destruction of the party. I will take you at your word that I will not change your mind on such points and wish you the best in your pursuit of changing socon minds, Don Quixote.
I like to stir things up on the Rudy threads because I resent the small number of Hunter supporters waving the bloody shirt of conservatism for this obscure congressman. He does NOT define conservatism.
Yes...it is pointless to debate me about candidates splitting parties. You will not convince me that the burden falls anywhere but on the shoulders of those who choose to sit out. You'd have better luck trying to tell me water isn't wet.
You want to place the accountability for someone's actions on another person...I choose to keep it where it belongs, on the person committing the act. Unless one of us changes our perspective on that, this is pointless.
Thanks for being so civil...I hope we can focus on the numerous issues we agree on as opposed to the few we apparently disagree on.