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To: RoadGumby
“The same? Joined? Did we 'Join' Nazism when we went to war (Brutally, because there was limited and loyal news reporting) against Nazi Germany? Get a grip.”

The most offensive aspect of radical Islam is its refusal to recognize freedom of speech or religion. The proposal I excerpted did exactly the same. Using your Nazi analogy, it would be like gassing a few million people of German descent to battle Hitler.

If you want to give up the fight to persuade people not to choose Islam by imposing your own religious and speech restrictions, you’ve lost your way. After Islam, what’s next? Liberalism? Atheism? Oh, you might not think so now, but just wait for the next rationalization for expanding prosecution of thought crimes. The only difference between Islamism and what that “amendment” would lead to is who started it.

78 posted on 02/17/2007 9:08:31 PM PST by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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To: Cardhu

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79 posted on 02/17/2007 9:13:17 PM PST by null and void (This sentence no verb...)
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To: elfman2

Youe said "The most offensive aspect of radical Islam is its refusal to recognize freedom of speech or religion. The proposal I excerpted did exactly the same. Using your Nazi analogy, it would be like gassing a few million people of German descent to battle Hitler.

If you want to give up the fight to persuade people not to choose Islam by imposing your own religious and speech restrictions, you’ve lost your way. After Islam, what’s next? Liberalism? Atheism? Oh, you might not think so now, but just wait for the next rationalization for expanding prosecution of thought crimes. The only difference between Islamism and what that “amendment” would lead to is who started it."

Well, I think I do understand what you are trying to say. One should not sink to the level of those that are trying to hurt you. I believe, IN GENERAL, that this is so. However, I also believe at this point that this enemey we face (And they ARE enemies to us) is unlike any other we have ever faced.

It is tempting at times to allow oneself to dehumanize a foe, easier to hate and kill that way. But truly, these Radical Islamists have lost most if not all theiur humanity when they even teach their children to hate and kill in the name of their 'religion'.

I believe we are not facing a religion, but a cult of death. Life seems to have no value to these people. 'Traditional' rules just neither seem to work or apply to the struggle against them. One cannot go halfway in stopping them.

I also believe in the basic goodness of our selves. Look at us, questioning how far we should go to defeat them. Are we worried to become like them? Should we unleash our own 'ugly' side to defeat them? THEY have no such inner review of themselves.


129 posted on 02/18/2007 1:24:41 PM PST by RoadGumby
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