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To: Man50D
Blaming all of Europe is a misleading. England fought against those who perpetrated the mass murder of Jews.

Agreed... with some reservations (which aren't too different than things going on today)...

France resisted the Nazi's.

France (and England) refused to live up to their obligations from the Treaty of Versailles, and allowed Germany to rearm and move their military into the Rhineland, annex the parts of Austria and the Sudetenland, and pretty much take over Czechoslovakia. In response, France and England signed a treaty to protect Poland from invasion. When NAZI Germany invaded Poland, they did nothing. Granted, that was what popular public opinion throughout Europe wanted. They remembered WWI, and the horrors it unleashed. So, the people of Europe wanted peace, no matter what the cost.

Russia was Nazi Germany's enemy.

Only after Germany attacked in 1941, although if you count Hitler's hatred for communists, and the NAZI Brownshirts' attacks on communists during Hitler's rise to power. Remember, that NAZI Germany and the USSR signed a non-aggression pact, agreeing to split up Poland after the NAZI invasion. Interestingly enough, American leftists opposed American intervention in the war until the USSR was attacked.

The only group of people who bare the blame are the Nazi's. They didn't commit the holocaust by mistake. it was their intention to murder all Jews.

Agreed. However, while for the most part, they were not directly responsible for the deaths, I also blame the people of Europe for allowing these things to come to pass. For the NAZIs to take power and expand their power throughout Europe. For wanting peace above all else. Effectively feeding the neighbors to the alligators, hoping that the alligator would be full before their turn. Or that they'd be the last eaten.

Of course, we're seeing exactly the same sort of thing today, throughout Europe, and the US, especially in the US Congress.

Mark

69 posted on 02/17/2007 8:43:38 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: MarkL
France (and England) refused to live up to their obligations from the Treaty of Versailles, and allowed Germany to rearm and move their military into the Rhineland, annex the parts of Austria and the Sudetenland, and pretty much take over Czechoslovakia. In response, France and England signed a treaty to protect Poland from invasion. When NAZI Germany invaded Poland, they did nothing. Granted, that was what popular public opinion throughout Europe wanted. They remembered WWI, and the horrors it unleashed. So, the people of Europe wanted peace, no matter what the cost.

I Agree but that doesn't necessarily mean France or England knew about the Holocaust at the time they appeased Nazi Germany.

Agreed. However, while for the most part, they were not directly responsible for the deaths, I also blame the people of Europe for allowing these things to come to pass. For the NAZIs to take power and expand their power throughout Europe. For wanting peace above all else. Effectively feeding the neighbors to the alligators, hoping that the alligator would be full before their turn. Or that they'd be the last eaten.

Exactly. Ignorance and complacency was a factor of the holocaust.

Of course, we're seeing exactly the same sort of thing today, throughout Europe, and the US, especially in the US Congress.

You nailed it! History is repeating itself.
76 posted on 02/17/2007 9:00:00 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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