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| Sebastián Vivar RodrÃguez
Posted on 02/17/2007 6:52:03 PM PST by FARS
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To: Richard Kimball
You wrote:
Postmodernism and the preoccupation with sex also did an incredible amount of damage. One of the interesting things is that the more preoccupied a culture becomes with sex, the fewer children they have. They abort, or use birth control, and sex is recreation, not procreation. Ultimately, the Post-Modernists believe in nothing. This is Europe's primary problem, now. They don't believe in anything, and don't even have the energy to reproduce.
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I also don't tell people how to run their sex lives.
It might be true that you do not tell people how to run their sex lives but you put yourself into the position of a arrogant "judge" over other people you obviously know nothing about. All your observations are somehow wrong. You should know that I am a 100% European. I love my country, my continent and its people. Although I like the US and America it would never ever be a place for me to live in since I like my own country much better. I want to have America as a friend but not as a home. Why is that the case? Because the people who surround me have belief, they have culture and they love children. I for my part am the father of three little and wild boys and I am slightly over the reproduction rate. My family has a strong christian basement. No - we do not rape our neighbours, we don't have group sex parties and we are not engaged in sodomy. We try to be nice and decent people.
I do not know if you are able to understand that I feel displeased if someone from Texas is telling me that my fellow Europeans and myself are hedonistic sexmaniacs that believe into nothing. Maybe you should remember yourself that it is your own nation that has the biggest porn industry worldwide. If you guys over there reduce your sexuality to reproduction (of course I know that you do not) than there might be a real need for it.
I suppose I always lumped Warhol into the European thought process because I consider him the ideological heir of Marcel Duchamp.
Although Duchamp also alienated other works (i.e. the Mona Lisa of Da Vinci) he did it because of another motivation than Warhol. Duchamp simply wanted to make fun. Furthermore he liked to provoke. Andy Warhol had a problem with his existence and its finiteness in a pathological sense. Therefore he reproduced his works as often as he could since he thought that this may be a way to overcome the finiteness. Both of them have nothing or only very little to do with contemporary European art. I recommend that you inform yourself about the current European art scene before you give any evaluations. "Hip" German artists are i.e. Neo Rauch or Norbert Bisky. The today's European art trend is objective and not cubist (like parts of Duchamp) or iterative (like Warhol).
However, I know what I like, and I have studied enough to pick up on the underlying ideologies of the various genres. I also do like primitivism, if it's real and not faked.
Absolutely no problem with that as long as you do not put others into "drawers" they do not belong to. You are of course free to have our own taste.
You are aware the Americans had an answer for that:
Yes I am aware that you had Patton and I also know that the German Wehrmacht mainly lost the war in the endlessness of the Russian steppe and because of the cretinism of our former "leader" Hitler. You Americans only were the tip of an iceberg. But that does not hit the point. My point was that we Europeans know that war only should be waged if it is unavoidable in the meantime. I wanted to explain our reasons for that point of view. BTW - being cautious with declaring wars is a quite clever attitude. :)
To: tpaine
The firearms "Act" of 1933 is a clear infringement on our 2nd Amendment. Koresh and his followers were 'dealt with', -- before being able to present their case, -- by an unconstitutional use of force.
I don't disagree with this statement but it misses my point. The federal government, right or wrong, still has established a precedent of eliminating cults they deem violent. They should take the same approach with Islam given they have done so with the Branch Davidians.
You haven't made a valid constitutional point that cults can be 'dealt with' by an "established precedent" utilizing such force.
I haven't attempted to make a valid Constitutional point in any of my posts in this thread for the same reason stated above. Regardless of what point you may consider valid doesn't change the fact the federal government has already acted against one cult and if they are consistent should do so by the far more violent cult of Islam.
Islam has a basic violent belief system. --- --- You haven't established that the Branch Davidians had such a basic violent belief system.
You're absolutely correct but the federal government did so based on whatever criteria they established to classify the Branch Davidians as such the day it attacked the their compound!
If you truly believe that the Branch Davidians cult deserved to die because of their weapons, and/or political/religious views; -- get help.
Please show me which of my posts explicitly stated I wished the Branch Davidians to die. If you truly read my posts in this thread thoroughly you would not make such a ludicrous statement. You need help comprehending what you read.
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02/18/2007 7:46:53 PM PST
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
To: supercat
I ignored the accusations against the Davidians because they are irrelevant to the issue of whether the raid was conducted legally.
They are relevant when considering whatever criteria the Feds used to attack the Branch Davidians should also be used against the far more violent cult of Islam.
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posted on
02/18/2007 7:50:12 PM PST
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
To: tpaine
How convenient for you to continually ignore the fact our government illegally/unconstitutionally prohibited manufacturing or possession of 'certain' weapons, and then instituted a deadly unconstitutional raid to enforce their decree.
Once again you completely misinterpret my point this is the criteria established by the Feds and should also apply to the far more dangerous cult of Islam.
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posted on
02/18/2007 7:53:31 PM PST
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
To: potlatch
Lol, I don't recall the theme song from M A S H. It's "Suicide Is Painless"....
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posted on
02/18/2007 8:02:24 PM PST
by
paulat
To: devolve; paulat
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posted on
02/18/2007 8:07:01 PM PST
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: potlatch
M*A*S*H nostaglia bumperoo
Funny how music can get all the responses it does
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posted on
02/18/2007 8:13:13 PM PST
by
devolve
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To: devolve
[Funny how music can get all the responses it does ]
Yes, that one really did.
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posted on
02/18/2007 8:17:36 PM PST
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: potlatch
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posted on
02/18/2007 8:26:26 PM PST
by
devolve
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To: devolve
I have that one saved for when you least suspect it!!
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posted on
02/18/2007 8:28:40 PM PST
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: MelonFarmerJ
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posted on
02/18/2007 8:42:53 PM PST
by
Enterprise
(Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
To: FARS
Deserves another bump!!
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posted on
02/18/2007 8:44:00 PM PST
by
Enterprise
(Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
To: Man50D
They are relevant when considering whatever criteria the Feds used to attack the Branch Davidians should also be used against the far more violent cult of Islam. If your argument is that there is more justification to raid mosques that are fomenting terrorism as there was to raid the Branch Davidians, I suppose I wouldn't disagree with you. But since I think the Branch Davidian raid was not legally justified, I don't see how saying than a raid on a mosque would be "more" justified is really saying much.
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posted on
02/18/2007 8:45:11 PM PST
by
supercat
(Sony delenda est.)
To: Richard Kimball
Those who deny that Europe is secular are either lying or stupid.
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posted on
02/18/2007 8:45:55 PM PST
by
Red6
(Come and get it.)
To: potlatch
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posted on
02/18/2007 9:11:36 PM PST
by
devolve
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To: devolve
Very cute devolve - and all the music!
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posted on
02/18/2007 9:17:38 PM PST
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: potlatch
Hey !
Great!
I can do something with that!
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posted on
02/18/2007 9:21:02 PM PST
by
devolve
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To: devolve
Yes, I knew you could. Do you want me to paint out the writing?
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posted on
02/18/2007 9:24:44 PM PST
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: potlatch
Thanks - I'll use the X/BLACK.gif at I-M and take it off 100%
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posted on
02/18/2007 9:37:03 PM PST
by
devolve
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To: devolve
Ahh, that's a saver! Very nice post devolve.
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posted on
02/18/2007 9:42:35 PM PST
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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