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To: Fierce Allegiance
I am in quite a lovely "mood", as a matter of fact.

Oh, I see, something that is perhaps 1/100th% accurate is acceptable now, is it?

You see only what you want to see. Pity that.........

222 posted on 02/09/2007 9:45:32 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons; Fierce Allegiance; narses; Reagan Man; dirtboy; EternalVigilance; Jim Robinson
Oh, I see, something that is perhaps 1/100th% accurate is acceptable now, is it?

You keep trashing my chart as "inaccurate". Yet you've failed since I researched it and posted it 2 weeks ago to point out a single inaccuracy. I am willing to debate any item on the chart and will make changes as more information comes to light. So far, in the past 2 weeks, I've only had to make minor, semantic tweaks to 2 items on the chart.

I'm debating making a change to Hillary's support of the war in Iraq. While she voted for it and has come under fire in her own party for supporting it, her recent statements WHILE CAMPAIGNING may show otherwise. However, that is what she SAYS now during a campaign, in order to get elected, and not what she has DONE. If I switch her position to opposing the war based upon what she SAYS during the campaign, and not based upon what she's actually DONE, I would have to change a number of Giuliani's positions too. If any candidate had voted against the war and they wanted to say now, in order to get elected, that they actually supported the war, you would insist upon saying that they're against the war. Right? It works the same way in reverse. Of course there's her recent vote in the Senate about funding for the war. I've even taken that into consideration and still, that was a purely political vote, it was non-binding. That's why Hillary's block on her support for the Iraq War is pink, not red, demonstrating weak support and stating that she "voted for it".

As I've said before, the chart is weighted heavily towards what the candidates have DONE in the past, and what their statements have been before they were speaking in CampaignSpeak as they were running for President. Anything they SAY now must be weighed against what they've actually DONE in the past and what they've said in more candid moments.

Here's the chart one more time. If you want to debate any portion of it. Be my guest. Every time someone does, it helps me refine it and increase its accuracy.

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue
Giuliani Clinton Dem Platform GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion Supports
Opposed
NY ban
Supports Supports Opposes
Roe v. Wade Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment Opposes Opposes Opposes
Defined at
state level
Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/
Civil Unions
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Openly Gay Military Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship
for Illegal Aliens
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Tough Penalties for
Employers of Illegal Aliens
Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Sanctuary Cities/
Ignoring Immigration Law
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment Opposes
Opposes Opposes
Supports bans
Supports
Confiscating Guns Supports
Confiscated
as mayor.
Even bragged.
Supports Supports
Supports bans
Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban Supports Supports Supports  
Frivolous Lawsuits
Against Gun Makers
Supports
Filed One
Himself
Supports   Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses Supports Supports   Opposes
War in Afghanistan Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports Supports
War in Iraq Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports
Weak support
Supports
Patriot Act Supports Supports
Voted for it
2001 & 2006
Opposes Supports
"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani


229 posted on 02/10/2007 2:45:05 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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