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To: Polybius
One of my relatives flies Search & Rescue with the military. It was something he volunteered for and something he loves to do.

Your comments only reinforce my point the difference between your relative and the climbers is your relative's altruistic motivation is necessary to save lives while the climbers self centered actions to fulfill a thrill is unnecessary and endangers others lives.
285 posted on 12/17/2006 10:26:09 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Man50D
Your comments only reinforce my point the difference between your relative and the climbers is your relative's altruistic motivation is necessary to save lives while the climbers self centered actions to fulfill a thrill is unnecessary and endangers others lives.

The climbers like to climb
The rescuers like to rescue

Yet Man50D, sitting behind his keyboard, is still not happy. So let's prevent both from ever doing so again. < /sarcasm >

289 posted on 12/17/2006 10:32:23 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Man50D

Well, I guess the issue is "self centeredness"

I suspect these same climbers would be the first to volunteer to go rescue someone else. I think the rescuers are by and large climbers.

I think they are different from us.

I think fulfilling a life "thrill",,I would say "ambition" is not a bad thing. Lots of people do it.


300 posted on 12/17/2006 10:59:39 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Man50D
One of my relatives flies Search & Rescue with the military. It was something he volunteered for and something he loves to do ..... Polybius

Your comments only reinforce my point the difference between your relative and the climbers is your relative's altruistic motivation is necessary to save lives while the climbers self centered actions to fulfill a thrill is unnecessary and endangers others lives. .... Man50D

You need to understand that these rescuers are thrill seekers too. That is why they chose to be rescuers.

People often come up to me and tell me that I "saved their life" by picking up that early cancer on their mammogram or their CT. I seldom remember the case or their name.

When I "save a life" in the safety of my hospital, I get the "warm and fuzzies" for five minutes and then move on with the rest of my day.

By contrast, you should see my relative describing, with a smile on his face and a gleam in his eye, how he had to hold his helo close to the cliff face to lower his Corpsman to the injured climber while fighting the swirling updrafts caused by the cliff face.

When my relative "saves a life", the associated danger gives him a thrill that he relives every time he tells the story.

In regards to "necessary", right now he is back in Iraq flying other missions besides just SAR. The dangers faced while rescuing civilians in the U.S. are serving him well as he is used to being in sphincter-tightening situations.

If real life climbers in trouble did not exist, the military would just have to put themselves in dangerous situations to rescue plastic dummies.


331 posted on 12/17/2006 1:24:31 PM PST by Polybius
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