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To: IndyInVa

"Another point - a lot of these "dissenting generals" made general during the Clinton years. Many were the touch-feely, kumbaya types. Many got where they are not due to leadership ability and military ability, but due to suck-up ability."

Well, ok, but if they made General under Clinton, then they made Colonel and probably Lieutenant Colonel under Bush 41 or Reagan. They might have made Major under Carter, but more likely it was under Ford, and were Captains and Lieutenants under Nixon.

So, where did they become the touchy-feely kumbaya types coming up through the ranks over 25 years? Was it that touchy-feely kumbaya types were promoted to Major under Carter, and then just given passes to Lt.Col. and Colonel under Reagan and Bush, just so they could finally enforce their flower-power as Generals made during the Clinton Administration?

Don't get me wrong, I am unimpressed by these ex-Generals' comportments. I think they are lying politicians with a Democratic Party agenda. But were they bad Generals? And before that were they bad Colonels and Majors, Captains and Lieutenants? Is it that every bad officer who somehow wormed his way through four or five selection boards were all chosen by Clinton?

In short: is to have been chosen as an Admiral or General during the Clinton Administration a mark of incompetence and cowardice? Should we look at when professional officers achieved flag rank and, depending on the President, evaluate their personalities and military careers?

Most flag officers promoted during the Clinton years is an incompetent suck-up? Is that the way we should look at them all, including the ones still in the forces?

I don't like the inference.

The President doesn't really pick generals.


13 posted on 05/25/2006 1:06:03 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Vicomte13

Perhaps all of these dudes have book contracts in mind, or perhaps a political future.


16 posted on 05/25/2006 1:50:45 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Vicomte13
Most flag officers promoted during the Clinton years is an incompetent suck-up? Is that the way we should look at them all, including the ones still in the forces? I don't like the inference. The President doesn't really pick generals.

Competence is generally (no pun intended) assumed in Flag Officers, excellence is another matter. Some senior military officers have genuine partisan political loyalties, often based on family history. Others (e.g. Wesley Clark) are simply opportunists (in their military and post-retirement endeavors), who will conform to the prevailing winds to get ahead. Many, in the best tradition of Cincinnatus and William T. Sherman, avoid politics in and out of uniform. To say that there weren't more than a few flag officers who didn't "conform" to get themselves noticed during the Clinton years is a bit naive or disingenuous.

23 posted on 05/25/2006 2:09:03 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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