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To: spanalot

I have read Eugene Lyons and I also have his FBI file. So what?

You also are boring and totally predictable. You never once refuted anything I presented nor did you offer an alternative interpretation.

Your "debate" technique is quite transparent, i.e. make sweeping derogatory assertions but refuse to be held accountable for what you write, and refuse to respond to specific contradictory evidence.

Goodbye to you!


29 posted on 05/03/2006 9:31:18 AM PDT by factfinder200
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To: factfinder200
Serious students of conspiracy theories are invited to join my new Yahoo group, AOCT = Analysis of Conspiracy Theories:

Click here to join AOCT
Click to join AOCT

AOCT is different from most Yahoo conspiracy groups in several ways:

1. Perhaps most unique of all, AOCT members will periodically be introduced to first-time released data from FBI files and documents. The moderator of AOCT has obtained more than 200,000 pages of FBI files and documents which pertain to right-wing conspiracy theories and the persons and organizations that disseminate them -- as well as FBI data on persons and organizations which are often discussed in conspiracy literature.

2. Personal insults and abusive language will not be tolerated. Ditto for religious or racial slurs.

3. Members should be prepared to substantiate assertions they make by answering questions and indicating sources used to document their statements and conclusions.

4. Members should understand the difference between opinion and fact. We all have personal opinions and political preferences. But it is often necessary to set aside our personal convictions and preferences in order to candidly acknowledge when inconvenient factual evidence exists that challenges our premises and conclusions.

5. Robust critiques and comments are welcome -- but let's try to learn from each other via civil conversation. Many conspiracy theory adherents seem to resent being challenged to substantiate their statements or they become hostile when questions are asked or criticisms made. This reveals an intellectual weakness in their position which, perhaps, they do not wish to acknowledge. AOCT believes such matters deserve candid discussion.

6. AOCT wishes to encourage research by serious conspiracy students. Consequently, AOCT will provide numerous links to resources that conspiracy students (pro and anti) may find useful for their research. Currently there are almost 100 such links and more will be routinely added.

WHAT IS IN THE FILES SECTION OF OUR GROUP?

(a) A 32-page list of FOIA requests that I have submitted to the FBI (and other government agencies). I will periodically update the list.

(b) A chart which will assist serious students who wish to pursue research into the private papers of prominent persons who have been involved with the Birch Society or within other right-wing conspiracy organizations.

(c) Coming in the future: a major listing of masters theses and doctoral dissertations pertaining to right-wing persons, organizations, and publications along with controversies in which conspiracy adherents played a major role.

WHAT IS IN THE DATABASE SECTION OF OUR GROUP?

(a) A list of FBI file numbers which are relevant to AOCT topics. This list will be periodically updated.

(b) Key Figures: A database to identify key figures who have been part of the conspiracy community in the U.S. since the 1920's. Most of these persons are now dead and often little remembered. However, many of them were key players in their communities, their state, or even nationally. Due to the amount of time required to find all my notes -- this section will be populated in a relatively slow fashion.

WHAT IS IN THE PHOTO SECTION OF OUR GROUP?

(a) Periodically I will attempt to scan interesting FBI documents and post them in this section.

WHAT IS IN THE POLLS SECTION OF OUR GROUP?

(a) Feel free to participate in the current question posted in the polls section. New poll questions will be added periodically so that everyone can give their judgments about interesting conspiracy-related matters.

30 posted on 05/10/2006 8:25:30 AM PDT by factfinder200
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