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To: SUSSA
If we cut off tax paid services to illegals, the rest would go home too.

Quite frankly, that is our greatest argument against the illegals. In Texas, the illegals have dominated the school systems so that our massive property taxes are used to buy the school districts professional-styled sports arenas and provide gold plated taj mahal environments to people who choose to live 12 people per apartment.

Watching hospital after hospital close, along with watching food banks empty, along with more of this crap where the Mexicans demand more services and entitlements than even a Katrina "Where's Mine" scam-artist, we will get tired of paying the tax and will say "No" to the next bond election. Otherwise those within the gated communities will only experience the effects of The Invasion when their lawns are mowed, the pools maintained, and the furniture dusted.

For years I’ve been saying we should use the RICO law on criminal employers

The Legal Community will kiss your feet at this proposal since it means that if the options are "lose everything" in RICO forfeiture, or huge tax-deductable legal fees, these "corporate big wigs" will choose the latter and will keep the courts (that you pay for) tied up settling these claims. I don't see great motivation in prosecutors to win these cases either. Probably plenty of out-of-court settlements so there won't be this psychological impact that you are planning on.

Enforcement on the employers, I believe is the correct way to handle this. Quite frankly the argument against enforcement is silly. We are talking "government" here. A corrupt, lazy, incompetent government made up mostly of college trained Marxist liberals who are in government to "make a change". What this translates into is that you will have token prosecutions in token industries. These industries will be targetted purely on politics so that high profile companies like Walmart will get papered while the Avacado growers will be ignored. If the illegals being dragged out are Korean woman from nail salons and others that will solicite great sorrow and compasion when played in the media before the naive public, then those industries will get hit.

The beauty of the "enforce the current laws" deal is that it is completely impossible to do an overnight "bust" so union politics can come into play here. For instance the construction workers unions can hit non-union shops that hire illegals - that has political possibilities. But who in the world is going to sic the hounds of justice on the tomato growers? Answer, no one, so they will experience a de facto amnesty without the political fallout.

113 posted on 03/29/2006 6:04:34 AM PST by Shomer (More Great News and Insights From The Blue Bird of F'ing Joy)
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To: Shomer

Shomer, that last post was very well written. Great thoughts.


117 posted on 03/29/2006 6:57:28 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: Shomer
The Legal Community will kiss your feet at this proposal since it means that if the options are "lose everything" in RICO forfeiture, or huge tax-deductable legal fees, these "corporate big wigs" will choose the latter and will keep the courts (that you pay for) tied up settling these claims. I don't see great motivation in prosecutors to win these cases either. Probably plenty of out-of-court settlements so there won't be this psychological impact that you are planning on.

You misread RICO. Under RICO the defendant’s assets are forfeited when the charge is filed and the warrant is signed. The defendant doesn’t have to be convicted or even have a trial date. The defendant has to petition the court to allow him access to enough of the forfeited assets to hire a lawyer. The judge says how much of his money he may use and the judge appoints someone to see that all funds withdrawn are used only for the defense of the case.

Also, avoiding jail on the underlying charge does not release the seized assets. Under RICO a defendant must prove that the funds are not the fruit of an illegal act. That’s almost impossible to do because money is fungible.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that competitors of the criminal businesses that employ illegal immigrants can be sued under the civil section of RICO because their criminal activity makes them a corrupt organization under the definition in the law. There is no reason to think they would not uphold criminal charges.

As for incentive to prosecute, aside from keeping their jobs if ordered to do it, is the fact that the forfeited assets do not go into the general fund. They go to the cops, and prosecutors for more enforcement, equipment, employees, etc. There’s plenty of incentive. All we need is an administration willing to do their duty and enforce the law.

147 posted on 03/30/2006 11:36:28 AM PST by SUSSA
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