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How can Black Americans achieve true success?
BOND-Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny ^ | 9/21/05 | Ermias Alemayehu

Posted on 09/21/2005 4:56:30 AM PDT by abigail2

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To: abigail2
How can Black Americans achieve true success?

The same way anyone else can.

61 posted on 09/21/2005 8:51:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: abigail2

Thanks for the ping!


62 posted on 09/21/2005 8:53:33 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: BackInBlack
"Talk proper english for one....no more "hood" talk."

Would the same apply the white southerners with a thick accent who use colloquialisms?

If a person's individual accent reflects their geographic area where they live, fair enough, but when their speech reflects the lifestyle they choose to live, that is fair game to address.

What I cannot understand is why so many Black Americans I have met from the Philly area speak such a perfect English and always dress so properly, it is almost a stereotype to me.

Serious, There is 4 families in my Church from Philly, these women all speak PERFECT English, and I almost never hear any white person speak so clearly and pronounce so accurately, I dunno!

I actually made an experiment once in my home area, when I met a Black person who was openly (exceedingly) kind or appeared very smart, I asked them where they were from. None were from my local area, and 90% were from Philly. (I asked maybe 15 people before I felt I was just being paranoid or something, but the coincidence surprised me. The normal middle class acting Black Americans I met I didn't ask, after all, they acted just like me, and I aint from Philly.)

I concluded it was just something in the schools in their area they grew up in, or, they must have come from devout religious families or something, but I was stunned to my beebers.

63 posted on 09/21/2005 12:09:52 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: BackInBlack
Serious, There ARE 4 families in my Church from Philly, these women all speak PERFECT English, and I almost never hear any white person speak so clearly and pronounce so accurately, I dunno!

SEE? I told you I wasn't from Philly!! LOL!

64 posted on 09/21/2005 12:16:41 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: gracious

There are countless good Black role models--from Oprah to Tina Turner to Condoleezza Rice to Walter Williams to Herman Cain to..........and most of all: all of those millions of fine, good, outstanding people who do their jobs, take care of their families, teach their children to be good people, go to church, are good citizens! This is success in itself. But if Americans of African descent--or any descent!--want to be prosperous, their best bet is to get an education--and insist that their children do--and disregard the self-serving propaganda of the Marxist Left.


65 posted on 09/21/2005 3:06:08 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Love is the ultimate aphrodisiac.)
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To: Tax-chick

Not me!


66 posted on 09/21/2005 3:06:48 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Love is the ultimate aphrodisiac.)
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To: Savage Beast

Not many people, I'm sure.


67 posted on 09/21/2005 3:08:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: softwarecreator

"It's general advice that, with a few modifications, can be applied to any person regardless of race. It can be applied to one person or millions."

Sort of. By giving the suggestion, that clearly indicates you see the suggestion as significant.


68 posted on 09/21/2005 3:10:58 PM PDT by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: birddog

"This problem is NOT a race issue."

- Agreed. There will always be poor people because of the human condition, regardless of race. You can't rescue people from poverty by giving them handouts; that only creates dependency and self loathing exacerbating the problem. Opportunities abound in this country; if they are poor there is generally a good explanation as to why. Individual responsibility is the single greatest factor.


69 posted on 09/21/2005 3:57:55 PM PDT by Tempestuous
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To: BackInBlack
By giving the suggestion, that clearly indicates you see the suggestion as significant,

No, I could clearly see by the tone of your post where you were going with your questions.  To me the suggestions weren't significant, they were typical.  I saw Coleman Young and now, Kwami Kilpatrick do it as mayors of Detroit for almost 30 years.    Instead of addressing the problem it gets buried while putting the person asking the question on the defensive.

I grew up in Hamtramck which is a very small but highly racially mixed city surrounded on all 4 sides by Detroit.  I did 3 years as a substitute teacher in the Detroit and Hamtramck public school systems.  The things I pointed out where problems that I saw with my own eyes.  I don't need any charts, surveys or reports to tell me what I witnessed on a daily basis.

70 posted on 09/21/2005 4:10:08 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: abigail2

Hard work, a positive attitude and lots of faith in God... the way everyone else does it. This isn't a race issue, it's a personal ambition issue.


71 posted on 09/21/2005 4:33:37 PM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job, breath in my lungs and my future husband petronski.)
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To: bonfire
The "Black Community" which allowed it's Children to harrass Those who want to be Educated needs to re-examine it's Values.

To allow it's Children to Denigrate Education as "Too White" is a MONUMENTAL FAILURE of it's Culture!!

There exists Virtually NO "Racist American Belief Systems!"

The ONLY RACISTS in AMERICA, in the past 30 years, have been BLACKS, (Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakan, Al Sharpton)!!

We are WAY PAST "Racism;" We are ALSO "WAY PAST" the STUPIDITY which Fosters "Racial Stereotypes!"

It's Time for the "Black Best & Brightest" to "Stand UP for Their People"--for the Successful Black People to accept Responsibility for their Fellows, & Help "The Rest of Us" Drag their "Fellows" into our Successful Culture!!

We ALL "Rise or Fall--Together!!"

Doc

72 posted on 09/22/2005 8:41:24 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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