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To: Tailgunner Joe
I agree but technically all these cases are about separatism. Taiwan was a part of China for many centuries. Tibet was conquered all right but technically it is a part of China. On the other hand, absolute majority of population in Kosovo is now Albanian and by all democratic means it should be allowed to join Albania. Any referendum will say this. You see, one cannot judge the situation using different standards. You probably like the UK and do not like China. So Ulster should stay where it is and Tibet should not. There are many other cases like that. Indonesia, for one. Why East Timor is luckier than Falklands or Ulster?

Russian policy in Caucasus in fact is not as bad as you think. Russia's prime interest is to prevent further war, either in Abkhasia or in Chechnya, as much as possible. Very simple.
65 posted on 07/15/2005 3:41:03 PM PDT by RussianBoor
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To: RussianBoor
You see, one cannot judge the situation using different standards.

Of course we can. China has no legitimacy as a nation and no claim over it's own territory, much less Taiwan or Tibet. Separatists should not be supported in free nations which have a right to protect their borders, but China is a tyrannical communist empire, so separatists against China should be supported.

66 posted on 07/15/2005 3:49:23 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: RussianBoor; Tailgunner Joe
Wherever there is a definite territory, and we can make a plebiscite on this territory, and ask the people who live there, if the want to be an independent nation or not, then, if the answer is yes, they should have an independent state, no matter what. That's what I think.
Chechens want it? Let them have it. Taiwan wants it? Let them have it.
69 posted on 07/15/2005 4:04:50 PM PDT by j24
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To: RussianBoor
Taiwan was a part of China for many centuries.

And Taiwan was the seat of nationalist Chinese government after the Communist takover of the mainland. So in a sense Taiwan is MORE Chinese than the mainland.

76 posted on 07/15/2005 6:18:04 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mel Gibson: "Why should I trade one tyrant 3,000 miles away, for 3,000 tyrants one mile away?")
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To: RussianBoor

Poles just our "mortal friends":)). They try to create discord between us and ukranians. They did it for centuries and now stupidly think that they successfull.
I think ukranians just play them as fiddle:)). Ukranians are very cunny:).


86 posted on 07/16/2005 1:27:35 AM PDT by RusIvan
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