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Conservatives Need to Make Inroads into Pop Culture
Men's News Daily ^ | July 7, 2005 | Michael P. Tremoglie

Posted on 07/07/2005 8:20:42 AM PDT by Miami Vice

What an Independence Day holiday. I attended three free concerts on three different days that – if I had to pay to listen to these performers - would have cost thousands of dollars.

On Saturday, July 2, my wife, my youngest daughter and I were among the approximately one million people on Philadelphia’s Benjamin Franklin Parkway listening to Black Eyed Peas, Bon Jovi, Destiny’s Child, Will Smith, Stevie Wonder, Alicia Keys, and others perform for the Live 8 concert. On Monday July 4, I returned to that same location – along with about a half a million people - to listen to a concert by Elton John, Bryan Adams, and the Philly Pops culminating with a fantastic fireworks display.

However, the most memorable concert of the three was the one given by the world famous Peter Nero and the Philly Pops orchestra outside of the most magnificent building in the world – Independence Hall – just across the street from one of the most important symbols of America – the Liberty Bell.

Here only two thousand people gathered for an event that would have made the members of the ACLU, the People for the American Way, and Americans United for the Separation of Church and State apoplectic. The evening began with some of the audience applauding as crew members from the USS Cole walked by them. The Cole was docked at Penn’s Landing for the holiday and some of the crew would later participate in a flag raising ceremony after the concert.

Then, later in the evening, as the Philly Pops played, two thousand people waved flags in time to the strains of Battle Hymn of the Republic. Still later two thousand people waved flags and gave a standing ovation to the tune of Stars and Stripes forever. For the finale, two thousand people must have made Barry Lynn ears burn as they sang God Bless America and the MC said God Bless America.

Two thousand people of different races, creeds, from different parts of the United States, and even from different parts of the world were there. The crowd included a couple who recently immigrated from India, a Muslim couple, and even Congressman Barney Frank.

Two thousand people listened to a song celebrating a Christian holiday written by an immigrant Russian Jew – Irving Berlin. Two thousand people listened to popular songs written by the descendants of slaves – Duke Ellington and Count Basie.

Two thousand people listened – and sang along - to what some would call “ jingoistic” songs. Two thousand people listened to what some would call “chauvinistic ” speeches. Two thousand people waved flags and sang along to the song “ God Bless America,” while on government property – which surely some would say violated the idea of separation of church and state.

Liberals everywhere would have been horrified had they been aware of this. Especially appalled would be those who worship at the altar of planwirtschaft – the unwitting heirs to the ideas of the nineteenth century that resulted in the wars and genocides of the twentieth century because of totalitarianism.

For these people Americanism is problematic - particularly Americanism and religious faith. They believe religion has caused more wars and casualties then their social planning. They believe America has wreaked more havoc than Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Imperial Japan, the Soviet Union, Red China, Communist Vietnam, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, Castro’s Cuba, and now Islamism.

While it is encouraging that there are plenty of Americans who believe the opposite of what the contemporary American liberals believe – it is also worth noting that the two thousand people in the audience were primarily older people. Granted the Philly Pops orchestra does not appeal to many of the Baby Boomer, Slacker, and X generations, yet one does need to ask the question if entertainers who would appeal to these generations and provided the same message would be greeted by audiences just as enthusiastic.

I think they would. I think the younger and middle-aged generations of Americans are very patriotic – despite being indoctrinated with anti-Americanism by media and academia. These generations need to have their patriotic beliefs validated in the popular culture. They need the popular culture to mirror their perspectives.

How, when, where, and why the popular culture will again be happy to be American is anybody’s guess. Where the next Irving Berlin who writes God Bless America will come from no one can say (although Lee Greenwood’s Proud to Be an American was pretty close).

What can be said is that, if and when, these expressions of patriotism are brought to the marketplace of the popular culture - and not just the marketplace of ideas - there will be an audience for them. This is at least a comforting thought.

Michael P. Tremoglie is a writer whose work has appeared in the Philadelphia Inquirer, Philadelphia Daily News, Human Events, Front Page and Insight magazines. He is working on his first novel 'A Sense of Duty'. E-mail him at elfegobaca2@earthlink.net


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1 posted on 07/07/2005 8:20:43 AM PDT by Miami Vice
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To: Miami Vice
I think the younger and middle-aged generations of Americans are very patriotic

I agree. I think 9/11 opened the eyes of a lot of youngsters ("youngsters"....how old do I sound????) I'm sure their teachers/professors had many "who are you going to believe? Us or your lying eyes" moments.
2 posted on 07/07/2005 8:26:49 AM PDT by Millee (So you're a feminist......isn't that cute??)
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To: Miami Vice

Plenty of young people are listening to patriotic popular music ... country music and contemporary Christian music. If he's never heard of them (while he exposes his child to the performances of "singing" strippers and aging British pedophiles), it's his loss.

Hey, East Coast dude ... TOBY KEITH!


3 posted on 07/07/2005 8:41:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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To: Miami Vice
Pop culture is mostly comprised of non-thinking emotional nitwits that have no real solutions or values. That makes it the opposite of free thinking. Rather than take the lower road of pop-culture, increase the knowledge.

The low road is pop culture TV (MTV, NBC, ABC, BET, etc.) and useless. The high road deals with education. Not college or high school, but with paid apprenticeships. Set up a business that puts people through a job that will allow them to earn more money and experience.

Example: 10 companies decide to have their more redundant jobs pooled/contracted to a "school". The adult students would work the job part time and study the rest of the time. With the business involved, they can get better employees, dictate what education is needed and spend less time and money on the interview process and retraining.

The difference between the two roads is one wants money and gets you mad and wanting government solutions. The other affects your brain, earns you more money and uses individualistic solutions.

Young people like money, so show them that thinking makes more money. Some won't like it at first, but after a while, they learn how to make it and who wants to take it.

Liberalism is successful at manipulation of emotions and government based solutions (pop-culture, colleges, government schools, visual media). They have and will always fail at thinking and individual solutions (businesses, creativity, fact based education, any cure or invention in history).
4 posted on 07/07/2005 8:50:34 AM PDT by 4KennewickMan2Invent (Thinking is a good endeavor. Not thinking is the worst thing imaginable.)
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To: Miami Vice

The problem is that art made specifically for advancing an agenda (conservative or liberal) stinks. So I'd agree that "Conservatives Need to Make Inroads into Pop Culture," but only in the most general sense. Conservative artists will create their work imbued with conservative principles, which is the only way to make "conservative art" that doesn't blow.

This also overlooks that it is corporations who control the production of art. It's all about money. Why aren't there more patriotic songs? Because patriotic songs don't sell as well. Plain and simple - it's Adam Smith at work.


5 posted on 07/07/2005 8:51:14 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Miami Vice
On Saturday, July 2, my wife, my youngest daughter and I were among the approximately one million people on Philadelphia’s Benjamin Franklin Parkway listening to Black Eyed Peas, Bon Jovi, Destiny’s Child, Will Smith, Stevie Wonder, Alicia Keys, and others perform for the Live 8 concert. On Monday July 4, I returned to that same location – along with about a half a million people - to listen to a concert by Elton John, Bryan Adams, and the Philly Pops culminating with a fantastic fireworks display.

Concerts that were free so that pressure could be put on the U.S. government to send more taxpayer money into the corrupt continent of Africa so that murderous dictators can maintain their death grip. Glad he enjoyed it. Nice display of principles.
6 posted on 07/07/2005 8:57:11 AM PDT by 4KennewickMan2Invent (Thinking is a good endeavor. Not thinking is the worst thing imaginable.)
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I guess that is the point then isn't it. That more people will be exposed to those types of things then the cultlike Christian and Country music.

On btw he did mention Christian and Country music.


7 posted on 07/07/2005 9:21:46 AM PDT by Miami Vice
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To: 4KennewickMan2Invent

You mean the free concerts like the Philly Pops?

I guess not everyone is as principled as you are. Maybe you can climb down from your high horse and tell us how we should all live.

Then again maybe that is the point of the article isn't it? That we are not all as Godlike as you and that the popular culture does effect more people than your highmindedness.

Then again like most holier-than-thou people you are probably nothing more than a hypocrite - and vocal one at that.

Personally I'll stick with what Tremoglie says and you can go live in your own little world with its high road and principles. Just remember your principles when you ask someone to take care of you when you are sick or fix your plumbing or clean your streets for you or collect your trash you better make sure that they only listen to Christian music or Country music. Because more than likely they listen to Elton John or Blackeyed Peas.

Oh yeah the ELton John and Blackeyed Peas fans vote too!!


8 posted on 07/07/2005 9:28:37 AM PDT by Miami Vice
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To: Miami Vice

He mentioned one country music song, that is true. However, it seemed to me that he was unaware of country or Christian music as financially significant segments of the "popular music" market.

Oh, well ... doesn't really matter.


9 posted on 07/07/2005 9:31:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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To: Tax-chick

Hey dixie broad

TOBY KEITH WAS AT THE LIVE 8 CONCERT

Open your eyes not just your mouth!!!!!!


10 posted on 07/07/2005 9:32:18 AM PDT by Miami Vice
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To: Miami Vice

Bless your heart, dear. You're upset. I'm sorry I didn't realize you were so identified with the author's opinion. Have a nice day.


11 posted on 07/07/2005 9:34:49 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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To: Tax-chick

Does it matter whether I identify or do not. The fact is he is making an excellent point. You cannot stay in your own universe - especially when the very people you idolize like Toby Keith - are doing the very same thing you are condemning.

This is why conservatives get fooled by judicial nominees.


12 posted on 07/07/2005 9:36:52 AM PDT by Miami Vice
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To: Miami Vice

Whatever.


13 posted on 07/07/2005 9:37:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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To: Tax-chick

A not very sophisticated response. That's okay though now I know who I am dealing with.

Thanks for corresponding. It doesn't sound like there is much to be gained for continuing though.


14 posted on 07/07/2005 9:41:22 AM PDT by Miami Vice
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To: Miami Vice

I'm not a very sophisticated person. But I agree that this exchange has exhausted its utility. Cheers!


15 posted on 07/07/2005 9:42:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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To: Miami Vice
Personally I'll stick with what Tremoglie says and you can go live in your own little world with its high road and principles. Just remember your principles when you ask someone to take care of you when you are sick or fix your plumbing or clean your streets for you or collect your trash you better make sure that they only listen to Christian music or Country music. Because more than likely they listen to Elton John or Blackeyed Peas.

Well, nice character attack, no facts, just knee-jerk attacks. It's Black Eyed Peas.

You didn't even bother to check my profile. I'm an Ayn Rand objectivist. I refuse to listen to Christian music (a tendency with atheists/non-believers like myself). And I like some country music, though not when it's preachy or depressing. Rock, Jazz, Classical, some Rap, Alternative, Punk, Electronica, Trance, and most of the musical genre work for me.

What on earth does being sick, hiring a plumber, street cleaning, garbage collecting have to do with the corruption of most African countries?

Regarding principles, I will go to a doctors, plumbers, street cleaners, and garbage collectors that will: diagnose and cure, repair the plumbing, clean the streets, and collect and dispose refuse in a lawful manner, respectively. Why? Because those that have principles actually do their jobs!

Miami Vice, try a dictionary next time. Principles are not a Christian (or any religion) owned phrase. Neither are ethics, morals, honesty, or integrity.

Here some help:

http://wordwebonline.com/en/PRINCIPLE

A rule or standard especially of good behavior

"a man of principle"; "he will not violate his principles"
16 posted on 07/09/2005 10:55:55 PM PDT by 4KennewickMan2Invent (Thinking is a good endeavor. Not thinking is the worst thing imaginable.)
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To: Miami Vice
To paraphrase William Shakespeare: "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Was there a point to your rant? Non-sequiturs are not useful. Got anything more concrete?
17 posted on 07/09/2005 11:22:40 PM PDT by 4KennewickMan2Invent (Thinking is a good endeavor. Not thinking is the worst thing imaginable.)
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To: 4KennewickMan2Invent

AN AYn Rand Objectivist? Great a woman whose philosophy was full of contradictions and qualifications. No wonder your posts do not make any sense.

Let me try to say this as slowly as possible. Since you don't like people because of their musical tastes you won't like plumbers, doctors etc to take care of you.

Tremoglie is saying that the popular culture reaches all people not just smug self-serving dolts - like Ayn Rand followers. This is why conservatives need to reach all people and use the popular culture which is the best available vehicle.

I don't know if you are capable of understanding this or not - that's not my problem it is yours.


18 posted on 08/02/2005 9:09:48 AM PDT by Miami Vice
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To: Miami Vice
Wow! How ingenious and clever. One month later and you state the same tired words: "You're a stupid head objectivist."

You can't even respond with facts, only insults.

My response was that Tremoglie was dead wrong. Popular culture has little value. What gain is there is spending time and money on popular culture? What leaps of mankind have happened because of pop culture? Tremoglie gave no answers to back up the statement.

I am fully aware that you cannot answer questions. You will instead lash out with, well the usual...

Best of luck to you.
19 posted on 08/04/2005 9:36:50 AM PDT by 4KennewickMan2Invent (Thinking is a good endeavor. Not thinking is the worst thing imaginable.)
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To: 4KennewickMan2Invent

You seem to be stuck in gear - claiming I don't respond only insult.

This is not true. You are the one who insults people.

Saying that popular culture has no effect is ludicrous. If it did not why is advertising such a big industry. Was it not Chesterton who said literature is luxury fiction a necessity.

Did not Aristotle say something about simplicity in addressing mass audiences.

If you do not understand the correlation between popular culture, popular opinion, and law then there ain't much I can do to help you pal


20 posted on 08/04/2005 8:02:59 PM PDT by Miami Vice
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