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Molecular Evidence of Human Origins
Apologetics Press ^ | April 2005 | Bert Thompson, Ph.D. and Brad Harrub, Ph.D.

Posted on 06/11/2005 9:08:51 AM PDT by guitarist

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1 posted on 06/11/2005 9:08:51 AM PDT by guitarist
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To: guitarist; Dataman
They're not real scientists, they have the wrong kinds of PhD's, they got their PhD's from the wrong place, they teach at the wrong place, they quote stuff out of context, they misspelled "pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconeosis" so I can't trust anything they said, blah blah blah.

< /theophobe rant >

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

2 posted on 06/11/2005 9:15:13 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: guitarist

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3 posted on 06/11/2005 9:29:56 AM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: BibChr
All of which proves once again the molecular biology, RNA, DNA,pheromones, genomes, etc has just about put the final coffin in Darwin's natural development thesis!

Here's Microbiology 101 from the Word of God. ...Shalom

Heb 11:3 By faith we understand that the universe was prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was made from things that are invisible.

4 posted on 06/11/2005 9:31:22 AM PDT by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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To: guitarist
The truth is, if we took all of the DNA from every cell, and then compared the DNA in monkeys and humans, the 4-5% difference in DNA would represent approximately 200 million differences in a human body, compared to that of an ape! To help make this number understandable, consider the fact that 95% similiarity would mean 3.8 billion similiarities. Is your glass 95% full, or 5% empty?
5 posted on 06/11/2005 9:34:53 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: guitarist
"Because DNA is a linear array of those four bases—A, G, C, and T ..."

It spells Gattaca.


6 posted on 06/11/2005 9:37:33 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: guitarist

read later...


7 posted on 06/11/2005 9:40:21 AM PDT by Chiapet (Cthulhu for President: Why vote for a lesser evil?)
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To: BibChr
You misspelled "pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis."
8 posted on 06/11/2005 9:52:21 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: guitarist

Please, just boil it down to the essential conclusions. Did we? Or, didn't we?


9 posted on 06/11/2005 9:59:42 AM PDT by NetValue (No enemy has inflicted as much damage on America as liberals.)
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To: guitarist
Please don't confuse the evolutionists with all this complicated and uncomfortable talk about mitochondrial DNA, cells, chromosomes, genes and whether 98.5% is different from 95% - or even if it makes a difference - when comparing chimps to humans.

There's only one "scientific" textbook answer to this question of Origins...


10 posted on 06/11/2005 10:05:42 AM PDT by Gritty ("The Democratic Party is the Frankenstein monster only the Clintons can jolt into life-Mark Steyn)
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To: Verginius Rufus

D'oh!

< forehead slap >


11 posted on 06/11/2005 10:47:38 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: guitarist
I once while in delusional state of mind posting to a similar thread compared this aforementioned study with trying to make me believe a 2000 Chevy and Ford pickup truck were in fact 98.5 % similar.

Both trucks operate on the same principles, look the same, use the same fuel, about the same size, same speed, same materials to build.

But, just try and put a Chevy starter on a ford and give it a key turn.

Same goes with human and simian

I was excoriated and pointed to the obvious overwhelming evidence of this weeks version of Darwinian theory.

12 posted on 06/11/2005 11:31:22 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: guitarist
No one can convince me that Alec Baldwin isn't related to the apes:


13 posted on 06/11/2005 11:44:10 AM PDT by melt (A slimy Michael Moore "film" sticks to you like grime.)
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To: guitarist

If humans didn't evolve from monkeys, what was the physics of creation? I'd like a creationist version of the actual physical process that resulted in a human being. (Since that's what science means to address).


14 posted on 06/11/2005 6:34:02 PM PDT by billybudd
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You say X is guilty of murder. I say, no, he's innocent. You say, well, then who did it? If you say X didn't, you've gotta tell me who did! I say, I don't know who did. (Or, in this case, I say I don't know how the process went.)


15 posted on 06/12/2005 11:41:55 AM PDT by guitarist
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To: BibChr
< /theophobe rant >

The weaker their arguments, the louder they get.

16 posted on 06/12/2005 12:05:51 PM PDT by Dataman
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To: guitarist
Sure, that's perfectly fine. And that's one of the reasons I don't see a conflict between evolutionary theory and the Bible. The book of Genesis dealt with the mechanics of creation in only a superficial sense - the important stuff was who did the creating, and what was the end result. The aim of science is to reduce - complex phenomena to simple phenomena. So science tries to describe the physical process of how creation occurred using the physical evidence available. It's not a "proof" - just a best guess based on our current knowledge (same as all other science).

That's why I don't understand the conflict between the Bible and evolutionary theory - they simply don't address the same issue.
17 posted on 06/12/2005 2:56:05 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: billybudd

If you interpret the Bible loosely to allow Darwinesque evolution, then you are, in effect, interpreting it loosely enough to allow that Jesus was not born of a virgin, the miracles are not real, three was no bodily resurrection, there is no heaven or hell, etc.

So--take your pick--Jesus is Lord, or Darwin nailed it. You CAN'T have both.


18 posted on 06/12/2005 3:37:17 PM PDT by guitarist
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To: guitarist

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19 posted on 06/12/2005 3:38:30 PM PDT by guitarist
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20 posted on 06/12/2005 6:27:26 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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