[Blzbba]

"Abraham sired Ishmael but that was only of the flesh. "


Which is usually good for the throne of England, if I'm not mistaken...

Of course, English monarchy rules of ascencion obviously weren't in place the time of Abraham! Thanks for the reply!

[muawiyah]

The question concerns who's on first, and who's not. In the course of history Isaac's tribe got the Levant, and Ishmael's tribe got Mecca and the Arabian peninsula.

Hard to tell who was the winner, of course, particularly when you look at where the oil deposits are.