Posted on 03/18/2005 12:19:15 PM PST by 1stFreedom
March 18, 2005 -- New York, NY
People across the nation are contacting the Governor's office encouraging him to utilize the Florida National Guard.
Under provisions of Florida Statute 250.28, the Governor may utilize the guard in order to execute the laws of the state when the local authorities are not able to.
Orders issued by Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer are in clear violation Article I Section 2 of the Constitution of the State of Florida.
These orders have created confusion as to what course of action is to be taken by local authorities, and has resulted in a resistance to protecting the rights of Terri Schiavo.
Under Florida Statue 250.28, the Governor is given authority to use the National Guard to prevent resistance to the execution of state laws.
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At the same time, you can read 30 affadavits by doctors, more than half of whom are board certified Neurologists, who say she is not in a vegetative state. And then we can look with our eyes and see some things on video for ourselves, and read the testimony of priests, attorneys, nurses and family members who have spent time with Terri.
All available. But as the song says...there are none so blind, as he who will not see.
Again you're exposing embarrassing ignorance. Constitutional rights are not contingent on one's level of cognitive awareness. If you think they are, cite me one provision of the constitution, or federal case interpreting any of the bill of rights, that says so. you can't. You'd flunk a con law class.
We don't know that she's brain dead because all the appropriate tests haven't been done. You want to talk about civil rights...what I find totally disgusting and appalling is that the ACLU and their ilk can stand up for the terrorists' rights in Cuba and Abu G, a hand full of atheists who don't want the 10 Commandments or creche displayed, prisoners, illegal aliens, etc., etc., but are ignoring this. Terri has civil right, too, and they should be more than the non-USA citizens.
What is reasonable? - court appointed doctors said she is in an unrecoverable vegative state - The judge ruled accordingly after finding the husband's claim his wife wanted not to be on artificial life support - you may not like that - after upholding his next of kin status under Florida law and agreeing siding with the medical experts who said she is in a veg. state.
It seems to me proper procedures were followed.
I also think there is an issue here that I can't get a handle on - some claim she is not in a veg. state and others claim she is in one but it dies not matter.
I can't get a straight answer if they think on a hypthetical case someone who enters a veg. state is considered to be for all practical purposes brain dead or not.
> A) State's rights - I don't want the Feds involved.
Life and liberty interests are constitutional rights and not limited to only the state level. In fact, state constitutions generally mirror the U.S. Constitution, so involvement at the Federal level is not unreasonable.
> B) Marriage institution. The Husband is joined with the wife - if a court rules this a valid arrangement for this purpose the husband not the parents have the right to decide.
In 99+% of cases, I (and probably most others) could agree with you. But here we have a husband who, without going the court route for a divorce (and refuses to do so), unjoined himself from the "sacred institution of marriage" he entered into with his lawful wife, and some 10 years ago forsook his marital vow for an extramarital common law arrangement.
> ... the Court did hear testimony from both sides plus a neutral court appointed medical team.
On this point you are completely ignorant of the facts and ought to come up to speed about the supposedly "neutral court appointed medical team." -- which was actually a fifth not entirely unbiased doctor.
> The judge ruled according to Florida law. ... The interpretation of law is for the state courts not you or I or anyone else.
Four times Greer was requested to recuse himself as judge for Terri's case. Florida law is clear and requires that a judge recuse himself when a request is filed. Greer ruled that he won't. There are too many other instances to reference where Greer violated Florida's constitution and statutory laws. You're really quite uninformed about the enormity of Greer's trampling of Terri's due process rights and right to life (as opposed to the slyly termed but grotesque "right to die" process).
> Florida law gives the husband teh right to make a decision like this if the patient is daignosed as being in a vegetative state.
Florida law provides for exceptions to this general rule when there is an obvious conflict of interest. Greer declined to take note of HINO's multiple conflicts, contradictory statements about Terri's welfare and questionable treatment of her.
> The Judge did not ask that her feeding tube be pulled only thatthe husbands wishes be met and he is asking the tube be removed.
Your inclusion of "only thatthe husbands wishes be met" is the core issue and problem of this tragedy -- the husband's wishes. Like it or not, this acknowledges that it's not actually Terri's wishes that are being "honored", but HINO's. As far as the judge not "asking" for removal of the feeding tube, Greer went beyond that in ordering that no one can feed her orally. That makes Greer's ruling an order of execution.
You would be amazed at what Gov. Jeb Bush can do and what President Bush can do if it becomes required.
You might also be suprised at what YOU and "We the People" can do.
Our country is at war... and Im not talking about Iraq or Afghanistan. We are already and have been in a defacto state of civil war.
At the moment our country is drifting towards anarchy, the time is coming fast for the tree of liberty to be watered.
She isn't BRAIN DEAD. You be more careful next time.
Let's see. Michael testified tearfully at the malpractice trial that all he wanted was to "take care of" Terri for the rest of her life. The rest of her life wasn't long, was it?
Also, he has a defacto wife and two children. So much for marriage vows.
No, my husband will NEVER 'love' me in this way
Clearly, you have not experienced true love yet, where you would do anything for the other person. Be patient deary, it may come for you someday.
In any case, I've read more about the case and I have learned that her husband is poop. I support her right to live.
Diagnosing vegetables today are we, "Dr." Destro?
Did you happen to read this?
Viewing Videotape, Frist Disputes Fla. Doctors' Diagnosis of Schiavo
Washington Com Post ^ | March 19, 2005 | Charles Babington
Posted on 03/19/2005 5:54:08 AM PST by Kaslin
Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), a renowned heart surgeon before becoming Senate majority leader, went to the floor late Thursday night for the second time in 12 hours to argue that Florida doctors had erred in saying Terri Schiavo is in a "persistent vegetative state."
"I question it based on a review of the video footage which I spent an hour or so looking at last night in my office," he said in a lengthy speech in which he quoted medical texts and standards.
"She certainly seems to respond to visual stimuli."
Thank God Dr. Frist takes the time to do his research when "Dr." Destro is too lazy to do his own before he pronounces his death sentence.
Since you seem to worship at the trough of the black robed bastards, regardless of their demonstrated incompetence and lack of character I'd love to see how you'd defend the "Conservativism" of Roe v. Wade or Lawrence v. Texas
Where does it end: No civil rights - she is a fetus....No civil rights - she is an Alzheimer's. No civil rights - she has no sight, no speech, no hearing, she therefore has no quality of life in the court's estimation, so don't feed her, she's Helen Keller.
Take your brand of "conservatism" back to Nazi Germany, or "Planned Personhood" where it belongs. Your medical diagnostic "competence" and your sense of medical ethics would find like company.
Don't put words in my mouth as you are not in a position to know what I think.
Oh yes, judges always consider all the evidence fairly.
Like the judges judging Milosevich and other Serbs in The Hague, right?
Okay okay I heard you the first two times. :-)
I agree, well I do not know about "all costs", but I think I know what you mean.
Mail sent!
Sorry about the repeats, there was a server problem. The latest antics of Judge Ghoul should be the straw that breaks the camel's back. During the time of the English Revolution, Oliver Cromwell dealt with activist judges in an effective manner. He hanged 45 of them and appointed ones who upheld the law.
The husband IN fact and IN law. The husband carrying out the iwshes of his wife who dies 7 or 8 years ago but the body remeained artificialy alive.
she is partly brain dead.
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