Posted on 02/18/2005 3:36:08 PM PST by FreeMarket1
Knowing the outcome, and only going by my hospital experiences, the hospital is "drawing the line." Meaning there is no hope that the baby will be able to come off life support.
Not only that, but the way I read the description of the condition, even standard life support will eventually fail.
Spiff---just so you know my daughter's umbilical cord was constricted as well, necessitating a quick forceps delivery. So I certainly identify with your example :) But I do think that the difference between our situations and this child are quite significant.
It just made me think "abortion"...meaning, I fully expected the article to be about it. I of course realize that it was about a baby that was already born, what a terrible situation.
When my husband was an intern, there was a case where an elderly man was on a ventilator. He had no brain activity, and the hospital wanted to take him off life support (and we're not talking food and water here - we're talking ventilator). The poor old man was so far gone that parts of his body were actually starting to, er, um, return to the elements, not to get too graphic. Still, his family wanted to keep him on life support. I don't recall what the outcome was, but I think that eventually the hospital was able to persuade the family that their loved one wasn't coming back, and that keeping him on a ventilator wasn't in his best interest.
Yes, I believe that is also correct. Another question would be, what would be the outcome of long-term use of life support?
I wonder if this is about money. Think I read in another thread that the hospital had been covering the costs. If so, then maybe that is the reason pulling the plug has come up. If the parents or insurance were to cover the expenses then maybe the hospital would continue with the care. The hospital may feel that their funds could go to help others that could really benefit instead of just prolonging the inevitable. Just wondering if expenses are the real issue here.
One of my children had the umbilical cord wrapped tightly around his neck when he was born. Did God sentence him to die and was it wrong for the hospital to "keep him alive" by removing the cord from his neck?
Where do you draw the line?
You draw the line at what you can fix.
Your Child was fixed once the cord was untangled. If it had required someone to hold the uncut cord away from his neck 24/7 for as long as he was to live, that would have been unreasonable.
Nothing could keep this condition from killing this child. All that could have been done was to pour vast ammounts of public money into staving off death for a few years and that is unreasonable.
Yes, I realized that after I went back and looked at it. It is very misleading and abit imflammatory.
In earlier stories about this case, it was reported that the hospital is paying the attorney fees for the mother. And that this attorney was the only one that would take the case....sad case all around.
I wonder if she gets to hold him? Can he be bottle fed, or is he fed by a feeding tube? Supposedly, according to reports, he's sedated for the pain. Poor little soul.
Yes that was a point I was incapable of making. My head and my tongue are not jiving right now.
That chance of this baby being able to come off the machines is extremely small. This is a point where the hospital knows there is no hope, and have decided to let nature take it course. The mother is not yet ready to let go, and I can't say I blame her, and she's clinging to hope.
I don't know about being able to hold the baby. But, he is not being bottle-fed, the IVs are sustaining him. It's a very terrible situation indeed.
"At some point, someone will have to "pull the plug" because the baby will not be coming off it."
BINGO!!
Sorry, Free, but there's more to the story. First, the parent does have legal right to see the medical record. Second, the hospital does not have any right to pull the plug without the family's consent. Third, where's the child's attorney ad litem? Fourth, why wasn't CPS called back in November? Fifth, I'm assuming this case would be in a large city for the hospital to be so equipped, hence the mother's attorney should have requested the case be heard in children's court by a judge with experience with minors and if it wasn't then could request it be transfered with minimal effort. Nope, there's much more to this story than what's being reported.
A lot of people here are saying that they don't mind this article much because the baby would eventually die anyway. This surprises me.
What makes this article so wrong, imo, is that they are doing this against the mother's conset. She doesn't want her son to die, and I understand that. When you have a loved one that's dying, don't you want every last moment that you can have with them? What if the hospital came and told you, "Hey, we're cutting off life support to your son/daughter/mother/father/relative. Oh, you want him/her to live? C'mon, he/she has a terminal illness; it's not like he/she is gonna be around much longer anyhow. We have a court order and there is nothing you can do to fight it"? How would you feel?
The real heart of this article is the court coming in and deciding if innocent people have the right to live to die, despite the family's wishes. That is playing God; that is dangerous territory. When a kid goes somewhere he's not supposed to, he gets punished. America might get a spanking real soon.
Do you not really see the difference?
While arguing over in one of the many "Million Dollar Baby" threads I realized that the euthanasia debate would not be nearly so compelling (even though I remain against the practice) if it weren't for the fact that medical science has advanced to the point that we can keep people "alive" despite some rather amazing injuries.
I mean, I sure am thankful for the medical advances that allow me to walk normally after shattering my femur in 2001. But I just don't find myself all that thankful that we can keep this little fellah alive despite the fact that is body is just not meant to continue.
Texas Children's Hospital officials said Sun was born with a fatal genetic defect known as skeletal dysplasia that will not allow his chest cavity and lungs to grow. Sun is slowly suffocating to death because his lungs lack the capacity to support his body, according to hospital officials.Doctors claim the child is in pain and that it is unethical to prolong his life.
The infant has been on life support since his birth in September.
Texas Children's Hospital is paying Hudson's attorney fees and asked that the case go to court in order to reach a fair resolution.
The hospital is paying the attorney fees.
>>>Do you not really see the difference?
I can't. I just picture that mother and baby....
I can't.
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