Posted on 02/18/2005 3:36:08 PM PST by FreeMarket1
Terri was not or is not in a comma. I am disturbed here on the court order. But highlandbreeze or mcg1969 made points I'm comfortable with. NOT happy...but good points.
I'm glad you were there when your mom passed. I think it makes a world of difference.
To sustain the vital organs. It keeps the heart beating, so blood can flow and supply the organs with much needed oxygen. Without it, the heart and/or lungs will not function on their own. Or, to help a patient who is struggling to breathe on their own, due to injury or illness, until they heal and get stronger.
Did I even come close to answering your question? I'm multitasking, at the moment, and anm suffering from hand and brain disease. (My hands will not cooperate with my brain.)
Frumious Bandersnatch is referring to a talking point and a precedent that this court situation can set.
You're reading too much into my paragraph. Remember, as I have admitted, I don't know exactly where to draw the line. Your child required a simple procedure; so did mine. Some children require more complicated procedures, and I'm OK with that too. Some don't recover 100%; that's fine too.
But I think it's important to point out that the medical community acknowledges that there is no treatment for this child's disorder that will save it's life. All cases are ultimately terminal. Furthermore, even when the full range of medical options are applied, only some children live into young childhood. I would assume that there is a range of severities in this disorder, so it is not inconceivable that the doctors in this case have concluded that they have done all they can.
Seriously now, if the doctors honestly believe they can do absolutely nothing to correct or even alleviate the disorder, so that all they can do now is continue artificial breathing support until even that fails, what is to be done? Now before you say "what, and let the child suffocate", please understand that that is eventually exactly what is going to happen to that child. It's lungs are unable to keep up with the child's growing body. So it will suffocate now, or suffocate later.
How do you define "significant artifical life support?" Would artificial feeding methods fall under that category?
In my opinion, no. For the record I was firmly in Terry Schiavo's corner in her case.
How do you know that the child is having significant physical suffering? Should we kill everyone who is having "significant physical suffering" who can't be permanently relieved of that suffering? Where do we draw the line?
Well, look, we all have to take the word of the articles we read on this. None of us are there. But you're doing yourself a disservice if you trust only this one news article. It is obviously slanted; so go check out others and see if you can get a fuller picture.
Again, I don't know where to draw the line. But what we have here is a child who is terminally ill, who requires artificial support just to breathe. The doctors are claiming that the child is suffering; someone else here said that they have sedated the child to spare him the pain. Other information I have read suggests that even this life support will ultimately fail. I honestly think that this is comfortably on the side of the line that says the merciful thing is not to continue artificial life support.
I should point out that this child is going to eventually suffocate no matter whether he remains on life support or not. The only choice is when, and how much suffering it must endure until it does (if we accept the claims of the doctors that the child is suffering).
It is a horrible situation for her and her baby.
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They did not decide to cut this child off for no reason or without consulting the parent. They did not do it without extensive consultation with medical specialists and ethicists. Those are their standard procedures.
This story has been slanted to make it as much a sob story as possible.
So9
There are other articles published that are far more balanced - this one is quite slanted. I posted a link from a thread yesterday - someone else posted to me links to a few more articles about this case - I don't remember the poster, have to go look at my pings.
Yes they do, and we all pay for it.
It is still wrong, the programs should be cancelled, it is nothing but socialism.
SO9
Yes, I'm well aware. Thanks for posting this info.
This is being talked about all over the radio here in Dallas...and from what I've learned, the mom has some mental issues. She has a 17 yr. old son that lives with his father. She claims that the father of this baby is the sun. Thus his name. She told the judge that she asked the sun to give her a painless birth, and he did. She saw the baby when he was born and saw his large head and abnormally small limbs. The sun told her the baby will grow. She talks to Sun, the baby, telepathically(sp).
I think the baby needs a court appointed advocate. Mom doesn't seem to understand the medical issues. No fault on her. She's just not capable of understanding. God Bless the lawyer that is attempting to help her, but I think she needs mental help, also.
No prenatal care.....the solar system told her she didn't need it. She wants to take Sun home so the sun can cure him.
You are absolutely correct in that the hospital almost certainly has an ethics committee. The purpose of such a committee is to review any decisions made of the magnitude of this case. No physician would make a decision like this lightly.
I does have an ethics comittee.
Every hospital in the Houston Medical Center does.
So9
Well now. Poor baby, she couldn't even care for him properly, even if by some miracle, he could go home. Sheesh, what a situation all around, and so sad.
OK. All I knew of this before was this article. I've since learned of the medical conditions from some good posts here...and agree. Now...I see there are other issues rather than a distraught mother wanting to save her baby.
I thoroughly apologize for my behavior on this thread.
It is still tragic; but not the image I had drawn in my head.
What behavior? You werejust asking questions, how else do we all learn?
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Is there a chapter of Texas Right to Die or the Partnership for End of Life Choices? They are trying to take over the whole country. I was wondering out loud here last week if they were going to go up the eastern seaboard or head west from Florida. It appears they have headed west.
Additionally, if the ACLU has a presence in TEXAS, BINGO. They are kind of the traffic cop aiding the death lobbyists.
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