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To: tuckrdout; Jim Robinson; FourtySeven; MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; ...
Some incredibly great points and questions.

"Why can a mere Supreme Court "decision" radically change our society to include a "right" to abortion?"

That is a great point to look at in context of the time Roe happened.

By 1910, every state except Kentucky had passed an anti-abortion law (and Kentucky's courts had declared abortion at any stage of gestation to be illegal).

By 1967, not much had changed. In 49 states, abortion was a felony ; in New Jersey, it was a high misdemeanor. Furthermore, 29 states banned abortion advertising, and many outlawed the manufacture or distribution of abortifacients.

In 1967, though, state abortion laws began to change, but only after years of organized campaigns by pro-abortion forces.

The US Constitution says absolutely NOTHING about abortion, but with the Amendments obligates the Government to protect innocent life.

The lie of overpopulation by the 60’s was “truth” throughout much of government and academia. In April, 1974, Henry Kissinger on behalf of President Nixon issued an executive directive, National Security Study Memorandum 200

A key line for all to grasp is:Abortion is vital to the solution for population control. This directive is still in effect today. Links & proof available for the skeptic is available.

There are many dynamics involved in the abortion holocaust: 1. Feminazi’s wanted abortion rights for “equality”

2. Some in government wanted abortion for “population control”

3. The Roe court was an admixture of both and the authors of the opinion knew 1. and 2., and knew that the US Congress could never pass a bill equaling anything near what they could do from the bench.

4. All of the above knew that in order to make abortion tolerable a major spin would be required. CHOICE was conceived and then born into the world on January 22, 1973.

5. Congress and the President were watching the Roe case closely from start to finish and COULD HAVE STOPPED IT IN IT’S TRACKS. If, Congress and the President were inclined to remove all appellate jurisdiction regarding abortion from the federal courts in 1972, Roe v Wade would never have been possible. Obviously they were not inclined to prevent Roe, and let the court create a monster of a "law".

6. No one could know that it would take so many lives but ALL THOSE INVOLVED DID KNOW that they were “legalizing” what was a FELONY across the nation in 1967.

Today science proves beyond a doubt that life begins at conception and is the taking of an innocent human life. And yet all three branches of OUR Government continue as if that is just an "opinion". It’s scientific FACT, ROE was the OPINION based on LIES, yet the government does not change.

And that is-was the cause of my article about Bush. I’m sorry if I was overly judgmental and heavy handed in the article. I like President Bush and think he is a genuinely good guy. But 4,000 babies are being tortuously murdered every day and I get very, very frustrated that he is not doing everything humanly possible to stop it. I deal with it daily and this time of year is particlularly stressful.

If we compare the war on Islamic terror versus the “regulation” of serial killing abortionists it is unacceptable and hence my title for the thread. I realize now though that it was unfair.

167 posted on 01/18/2005 11:18:47 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: sinkspur

Ping to 167 if I forgot ya!


168 posted on 01/18/2005 11:26:13 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
If our benevolent Supremes would just for a day, remove
their robes, and attend a few "partial birth abortions,"
Roe v. Wade would be instantly overturned.
Murder, by any other name, is still murder!!!

171 posted on 01/18/2005 11:55:15 AM PST by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY to 2008 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: cpforlife.org

Every single baby that is killed is one too many. But the question is, will a particular course of action help or hurt the effort to reduce the number of abortions in real life, as opposed to theory?

President Bush has taken several active steps to reduce abortion. Furthermore he has resisted the course of action that even Ronald Reagan finally resorted to: giving in and appointing bad or questionable judges because the Democrats obstructed all the best candidates.

It remains to be seen whether Bush will follow through on his obligation to appoint solid pro-life judges. I hope and think that he will, because he has good political as well as moral reasons to do so. Never put absolute trust in politicians, or in men for that matter, because sooner or later you will be disappointed. But on balance I think Bush deserves our support now, unless and until he proves otherwise. The judicial appointment process will be very closely watched. In particular, Arlen Specter's conduct will be very closely watched, because Bush took the responsibility for his being there.


198 posted on 01/18/2005 6:45:10 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cpforlife.org
Fair enough. But if it's really getting to you so much, you might need to take a break. If a guy fighting the Nazis or Al Qaida gets to take a break, you should too. Sorry if I was too hard on you in some of my responses.

Please do consider carefully what I said about section three of the We The People Act.

199 posted on 01/18/2005 6:57:19 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Women need abortion like a fish needs a bicycle.)
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