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Not Yours To Give Away
freelythinking.com ^ | Edward S. Ellis

Posted on 12/29/2004 5:51:19 PM PST by NMC EXP

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How many taxdollars is the government preparing to donate to the tsunami damaged area?
1 posted on 12/29/2004 5:51:19 PM PST by NMC EXP
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To: NMC EXP

35 million and up


2 posted on 12/29/2004 5:54:08 PM PST by blackeagle
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To: NMC EXP
Are you still here? I figured your love affair with Liberty Post, and Bush's re-election, would have caused you to leave FR forever.

But I should have known better.

You will take advantage of any occasion to trash Bush and the citizens of the United States. We cannot help our fellow man when in need, in your constricted, constipated little mind.

Move to the Bahamas. They have given nothing to the relief effort.

3 posted on 12/29/2004 5:59:48 PM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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We cannot help our fellow man when in need

Sure you can. Pull a Mother Teresa - liquidate all of your personal belongings, clean out your bank account and donate it to the suffering.

But when it comes to the public treasury:

Its not yours to give away.

Its real easy to be altruistic with other peoples money isn't it? C'mon sinky - ante up with your own personal stash or get the hell out of the game.

4 posted on 12/29/2004 6:08:52 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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Its not yours to give away.

Do you doubt that the representatives of the people would vote to give money to these unfortunates?

Do you doubt that the American people, were they able to vote, would overwhelmingly support helping these poor people?

Don't worry. I'm giving personally. But I support utilizing tax money for this purpose as well.

5 posted on 12/29/2004 6:11:53 PM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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Do you doubt that the representatives of the people would vote to give money to these unfortunates?

Since 70% of the other bills the congresscritters approve are un-Constitutional I do not doubt it at all.

Do you doubt that the American people, were they able to vote, would overwhelmingly support helping these poor people?

A couple of glaring problems with this argument: (1) this is not a democracy. (2) by definition one half of the population is of below average intelligence. Further, damn near all of them are poorly educated and uninformed. Bottom line is I truly don't give a rip about the opinion of the great unwashed.

Ever heard the term "tyranny of the majority"?

If so can you define it?

6 posted on 12/29/2004 6:23:23 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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Thanks
I like this and saved it on my hard drive.
7 posted on 12/29/2004 6:28:20 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("sak")
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Bottom line is I truly don't give a rip about the opinion of the great unwashed.

Of course you don't. The majority (including many "unwashed") re-elected George W. Bush, and you're pissed to the gills over that.

Sorry you're mad, but you need to work harder to convince people that your candidate (whoever the hell that is) is the man for President.

8 posted on 12/29/2004 6:34:51 PM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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Regardless of the application of power today, the Constitution specifically enumerates the powers of the Federal Government. Those things that are **not** enumerated, are not within, are specifically denied. The people may, from time to time, choose to change the Constitution to suit a more modern society. The Government however, may not.

Davey Crockett's rule still applies. The Judicial perversion of Constitutional powers is a violation of the Constitution itself, and must be treated as a violation of the supreme laws of the land.

9 posted on 12/29/2004 6:37:39 PM PST by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

My pleasure.

Send a copy to your congresscritter.

My lawgiver, Ray LaHood was on a local talk show a while back. He was bragging about all the taxdollars he and his partners in crime had donated to the airlines and families of the 9/11 victims.

I pointed out this was un-Constitutional. He came back with a claim on the "general welfare" clause. I read a couple of quotes to him from James Madison re: the general welfare and how that did not mean charity.

LaHood lost it and ended up shouting at me on the radio.

It was so fine.


10 posted on 12/29/2004 6:38:16 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: sinkspur

Regarding the topic at hand you are like a one legged man in a butt kicking contest - ain't got a leg to stand on.

So you start talking about junior.


11 posted on 12/29/2004 6:40:44 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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LOL!! You know very well you are in the very distinct tiny minority, especially since you think so many of your fellow citizens are "unwashed."

It is you who have no standing, in reality.

12 posted on 12/29/2004 6:43:46 PM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: sinkspur

For once you are correct. I am in the minority on a lot of issues.

That does not make me wrong.

Being in the majority does not make you right. It just lumps you in with a bigger crowd.

A few years ago I finally figured out that I do not need the approval or support of others to validate what I believe.

You should try it some time.


13 posted on 12/29/2004 6:53:45 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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A few years ago I finally figured out that I do not need the approval or support of others to validate what I believe.

You do, however, need the support of others to translate your beliefs into ACTION by the government.

14 posted on 12/29/2004 6:56:22 PM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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You do, however, need the support of others to translate your beliefs into ACTION by the government.

True again.

If I was not by nature a vengeful man I would not even bother to vote anymore for the reason you describe.

15 posted on 12/29/2004 7:07:54 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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That is great you posted that here. It's too bad the only Congressman on the Hill who thinks even remotely like that is Ron Paul.


16 posted on 12/29/2004 7:15:25 PM PST by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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Wow! I never knew how much I respected Davy Crockett till just reading that article. I always thought of him as the guy who wore a coonskin cap. Could somebody please remind me, how many countries donated $ and assistance to the hurricane victims in this country? My memory isn't what it used to be?


17 posted on 12/29/2004 9:37:18 PM PST by jeangnome (REMEMBER SEEING IS'T BELIEVING, BELIEVING IS SEEING)
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To: sinkspur
You know very well you are in the very distinct tiny minority, ...you who have no standing, in reality.

No doubt about it, you are absolutely right. But what I don't understand, is if you believe what you are saying, why are you on this thread insulting a person who has said and done nothing to you on this thread?

He posts a historical article about a moral view that once carried some weight in this country, and asks about how much money is being donated to a disaster relief. Then you appear on the attack, as though he were a powerful threat to you.

He is not a threat to you. He is not plotting against you. Trust me, no one here on this thread is going to hurt you.

18 posted on 12/29/2004 10:16:28 PM PST by jackbob
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To: sinkspur
You know very well you are in the very distinct tiny minority, ...you who have no standing, in reality.

No doubt about it, you are absolutely right. But what I don't understand, is if you believe what you are saying, why are you on this thread insulting a person who has said and done nothing to you on this thread?

He posts a historical article about a moral view that once carried some weight in this country, and asks about how much money is being donated to a disaster relief. Then you appear on the attack, as though he were a powerful threat to you.

He is not a threat to you. He is not plotting against you. Trust me, no one here on this thread is going to hurt you.

19 posted on 12/29/2004 10:18:54 PM PST by jackbob
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LOL!! Well, you've contributed exactly nothing to the topic of the thread.


20 posted on 12/30/2004 6:03:19 AM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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