Posted on 10/24/2004 7:00:58 AM PDT by gobucks
This is not urgent, but I'd like your thoughts on this if you have the time ...
He was however a Master Sergeant, a member of the last cavalry unit at Ft. Sam Houston in San Antonio, very disciplined indeed. Mom carried on in his tradition raising us kids. We all ended up being independent thinkers, "stand on your own two feet" citizens.
You have a very interesting proposition here.
It suggests an understanding of why they hate the Bushes with such infantile rage: An intact family with a visible, loving, and successful Dad in the background, and a virile, masculine son who is also a fine Dad to his daughters.
Enough to induce the narcissistic rage of the infant who feels abandoned because he has had to go without the former and no clue as to how to be the latter.
I suspect it is empirically true that on a concrete level, more liberals were raised in a broken family, which means raised by a woman in the absence of a father. Where the father was present but an effeminate liberal, the effect is functionally the same.
It is also true that a liberal in 2004 will have likely been raised by a mother who has killed at least one of his brothers or sisters at the abortion mill. Such a child will unconsciously feel threatened by the fear of being killed also--but rather than direct his aggression against the perpetrator/mother, who has proven herself a child killer already and therefore a dangerous character, he will direct it at the target which is safe--the father who was not there and who failed to protect the infant.
This is unfair to the father, who had no say--but for an infant threatened by death, these details are irrelevant and in any case unknown. The liberal thus distrusts the masculine for deep-seated security reasons.
As you suggest, reparation of the liberal childhood deficits will require the establishment of a close, non-erotic relationship with a strong masculine father figure.
This can help to restore trust not only in the masculine other but in his own masculine nature.
I think your thesis is brilliant, and those of us who give it a try may have the satisfaction of turning liberal weenies into Conservative Men.
" He was however a Master Sergeant ... very disciplined indeed."
Thank you for reading this so soon, and sharing this too. He must have been an awesome man and Dad - losing him so young must have been hard. The discipline you have showed here over the years .... I've always been struck by it, and now it makes a lot of sense. I have a hunch he is really proud of you up there.
"Such a child will unconsciously feel threatened by the fear of being killed also--but rather than direct his aggression against the perpetrator/mother, who has proven herself a child killer already and therefore a dangerous character, he will direct it at the target which is safe--the father who was not there and who failed to protect the infant."
This perspective totally fits and it had not occured to me. Do you have links to any psychology related articles that go into more depth about this? (And thank you very much for your positive remarks)
Thank you oh so very much for all the kind words of encouragement!
It's not too often I read a vanity that makes me think new thoughts. This one did. Thanks.
Or where the father was "present" and even conservative, but beat the children down. Consider the elder Rodham -- nothing that his daughter did was ever "good enough" for him. Now she's determined to take it out on us all.
You are quite welcome. Thanks for the compliment.
I have many, many times wondered about the home life Hillary experienced under the elder Rodham. What sources do you recommend that would half way accurately discuss this?
And let me ask this: given that Methodists are known as a group that tolerates Masons, was the elder Rodham a Mason? My experience has taught me that many Mason 'Dads', though frequently excellent in service to their fellow man, and sons, often times did not put their daughters in a position where they felt secure ...
I noticed you folks were interested in the topic, so I, ahem, shamelessly pinged you on this; it's my take on what needs to be done to fix the problem of too many liberals running amok.
It's all true; let me add that I've been saying for years that it will be the Men's Movement (the Dad's ) who will save America.
We women need to get out of the way and let them do it.
"Who are you, and where did you get such wisdom ?"
Well, that is about the nicest question I have ever been asked. My essay was not too well written, but I hardly ever see anyone argue that the way to get rid of liberals is to be a Dad to them, and essentially make up for the mistakes and neglect their real Dads inflicted on them. of course, that would be a lot of work too ... and we freepers tend to be busy.
Who I am is this: I am one of the 'children of god' (I think that is out of 1 John). I prayed for this wisdom (if one would call it that); the Holy Spirit is Wisdom, as is Christ.
Hmmph. I guess that sounds sufficiently evangelical.
Bottom line, I am also trained in science, have worked in several very technical fields, made decent money, but spent most of my adult years playing pagan, until the last few where me and Mrs GB have been Christians. My exwife, and the teens who live down the road are glad for the fact I'm on the right road; of course they wish I had 'awakened' long ago. In short, my story isn't special, and its too common, but thru Christ, the story has had a heck of happy ending these last few years.
Do you have additional links about the Men's Movement that you really like? I've been a Freeper for awhile now, but I've left my links page blank all this time because I have been waiting to see what 'theme' it should follow. I have decided now that it will be links only about dadhood, motherhood, traditional marriage... and some links about how God intersects these...
"We women need to get out of the way and let them do it."
I respectfully disagree. If adam didn't need the help, the helper would not have been created. you women are ESSENTIAL, you are not 'optional'. Adam needs the help, b/c Adam was MADE needing the help.
I would have reworded like this: 'women need to look toward the way he is looking and help him get where he is going, as well as multi tasking in that wonderful way women have, and look around too for dangers that might blind side him and warn him, (... and, well, lets see.... He likes the coffee black, but with sugar, eggs scrambled, cheese added, .. heh heh, couldn't resist adding that part!)
Good point, really good point when you read the bio of M. Douglas. One wonders how long it will be before C.Z.Jones and he call it quits.
Not soon enough... >:-D
Great points. Are you a "Spider"?
mrs gb frequently refers to me as an 'ass'. I think she's being loving when she says it however...
what's a spider?
What is a 'spider'?
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