Posted on 09/15/2004 11:30:46 AM PDT by rocklobster11
Thanks, considering your pedigree here, that's a great compliment.
We are making history this day, I can feel it.
Are there any rulings on keeping sources secret when the source is not leaking news.. but leaking lies?
If I were still in the media I would be scared to death that this could end up really watering down the media's right to keep sources secret.
It is one thing to keep secret the indentity of someone blowing the whistle on goverment wrong doing. It is another to keep secret the identity of some one trying to committ fraud on the voters.
There has to be a heck of fight going on at CBS. They had best be able to prove the validity of whatever position they take. They could lose the licenses to all their stations if they are not careful.
My understanding it the licensee who is liable. they did not fine Janet Jackson.. they fined the licensee. Rather is home free no matter what he did.. at least with the FCC. But CBS O&O stations could end up inline for license revocation.
From 12 noon to 3pm to 5 Pm.. there has to be some real fears and recognition of the danger being considered at CBS.
I'm not sure Burkett is the source either, although the 86 year old secretary sure wants you to believe he's the source. Her interview in the Dallas Morning News mentions how the memos were using Army terminology (eg, billets), which wouldn't have been used by the Air Force. It just turns out that Burkett is Army National Guard. Is it a coincidence that she points the finger to Burkett, or is that what the DNC told her to do when they went over the talking points with her( "unfit for command", "selected, not elected")?
My theory is that someone used the Burkett story about memos in the trash to create the memos and then gave them to Burkett to pass on to the DNC. Knowing that Burkett had suffered 2 nervous breakdowns, the forger knew he would fall for the memos and knew that the DNC would use them if they came from Burkett.
Or that someone smart came up with the concept, and someone stupid was responsible for the implementation
The difference in competence level between the forgeries themselves and the Grand Strategy they were a part of is mind-boggling.
One wonder which came first: the forgeries or the strategy?
Did the forgeries appear from an independent source, then give birth to the Grand Strategy at the DNC?
Or did the Grand Strategy come first, then the dirty work farmed out to some seventeen-year old?
In either event, the leadership level of the Democrat party and the Kerry campaign are clearly implicated at the strategic level. Thereby explaining Gunga Dan's reluctance to 'fess up or identify a source...
CBS, the 'Rats (and Kerry) are well and truly f****d.
I think the memo was either created by someone too young to understand what a typewriter is or someone too old to understand the power of the internet. They didn't expect to be challenged by the media, and they wouldn't have been if it were for those meddelsome pajama kids.
The word is that protecting the truth of these forged memos is so important that CBS has stalled all day on an announced press conference so they can fly the little old lady (Knox, Killian's Secretary) to New York to vouch for Dan.
Given that the memo was created on MS Word, my guess is that it's not the latter. If you can use a computer, you probably have some grasp of the internet.
In my view, the creator was, as you say, too young to be familiar with typewriters. But the contractor, i.e., the person he/she handed it to, was the one who was too old to understand the power of the internet.
Based on USA Today's description of their source ("familiar with the workings of the Texas NG, worried about retaliation", etc.), Bill Burkett is the logical candidate. And Marianne Carr Knox fingered him, as well.
I've no doubt that Burkett is involved and, perhaps, was even part of the chain-of-custody. But I don't see Burkett either a.) creating the documents or b.) handing them over to Dan Rather...and thus serving as his "unimpeachable source".
At this point, I would suggest that the chain-of-custody would look something like:
creator-unknown hands (inc. Bill Burkett)-DNC-Kerry campaign-unknown hands-unimpeachable source-Mary Mapes-Gunga Dan.
That look right to you?
Perhaps a listing in the News/Activism sidebar...???
I agree 100%
I don't know how to get it added back to the sidebar. It was there originally, but I think they just scroll off or someone reclassified it.
Here is what I have found so far:
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/d10101wch1_120994/d10101p.pdf
It's a pdf file dated December 9 1994, "Subject: Military Drug Abuse Testing Program." It lists references, the earliest of which is August 25 1980. A memorandum titled "Urinalysis Testing for Cocaine" is dated July 29, 1986.
I'm still researching it, but I think my husband and others who say testing didn't start until the 80's are all correct. The technology might have been there, but it doesn't seem to have been put into use until (as near as I can tell) August 25, 1980.
Not a seventeen-year old, just some liberul who has never actually done anything in its life.
All hat, no cattle.
And all for nothing, if their purpose was to "prove" that Bush skipped the physical to avoid a urine test. If he was skipping the physical for any reason, it wasn't for that one. The earliest mention of drug testing came in DoD Directive 1010.4, August 25, 1980.
On Fox, Brit Hume just said he had heard from Vietnam ear pilot who said he'd never heard of anybody being ORDERED to take a physical; that pilots just knew they had it done on or near their birthday.
The Surpreme court ruled in that case the failure of a station to air both sides of a controversial story is grounds of revocation of the station license. Red Lion broadcasting lost their station.
CBS only aired one side of this issu. It could lose its stations... Either to revocation or or an FCC forced sale. This could cost CBS in the Hundreds of millions.
This is huge gamble made by an arrogant corporation that is in effect telling the Judge you can't fine us. WE are CBS.
excellent
I think you're right on....tell the lie, tell it often. Amazing isn't it. Bill Clinton's best buddy is Dan Lassiter (sp?) the biggest cocaine dealer in the south, Roger is conviced for use, several eyewittnesses to drug use, refusal to release his medical records....and...NOTHING out of the media. Hypocrites!
The last thing that I want to do is boost their ratings.
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