Posted on 08/05/2004 11:57:23 AM PDT by Slan
Not a SINGLE MEMBER OF SWIFT BOAT VETS AGAINST KERRY ACTUALLY SERVED ON HIS BOAT WITH HIM.
On the other hand, Kerry's real shipmates support him publically.
That is why the Swift Boat Vets Against Kerry have ZERO credibility, and are thus being almost completely ignored by the mainstream media. Yes, they'll get some airplay with zealots like Hannaty and Rush, but in essence these guys have shown themselves to be total grifters.
Shame of the Republican Party for endorsing this kind of dishonest, and ESPECIALLY shame on George W. Bush for not condemning this pack of fools.
I have Firefox and mine's blinking.
Oh now I get where the lawyers are going with this.
Its a COOKBOOK!nice nuance newbie.
Thee!!
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Swift boats rarely act alone. Kerry's boat was part of a larger contingent that conducted operations in groups, usually at least 3 or 4 boats. In that respect, they were part of his "band of brothers' even though they didn't serve in the same boat.
Go ahead with this line, it won't work.
Right on . I have heard different members of this group on local bay area radio stations address this issue. They WERE NOT on Kerry's boat, but on other boats within the same group. They knew Kerry. They saw him in "action". Nice try, Slan.
Bush and the Republicans have nothing to do with the swiftvets.
Where were you when MoveOn.org, billionaire George Soros, and Michael Moore were trashing Bush?
Not one of Kerry's BoB served with him for more than two months.
Kerry has nothing to fear but TRUTH itself.
The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth anticipated useful idiots like you in their FAQ section:
1. If most of Kerry's fellow Swift veterans don't support him, then who were all those guys with him at the Democratic Convention? They made it appear that Kerry has the complete support of his "Band of Brothers" from Vietnam.
John Kerry has been able to convince about 13 men who served on Swift boats in the Mekong Delta to support him, 7 or 8 of whom were at various times crew members on his own 6-man boat. Those are the men the Kerry campaign so prominently featured at the Democratic Convention. The photograph we have posted at SwiftVets.com shows Kerry with 19 of his fellow Swift boat OICs (Officers In Charge) in Coastal Division 11. Four OICs were not present for the photograph. Only one of his 23 fellow OICs from Coastal Division 11 supports John Kerry.
Overall, more than 250 Swift boat veterans are on the record questioning Kerry's fitness to serve as Commander-in-Chief. That list includes his entire chain of command -- every single officer Kerry served under in Vietnam. The Kerry game plan is to ignore all this and pretend that the 13 veterans his campaign jets around the country and puts up in 5-star hotels really represent the truth about his short, controversial combat tour.
The Swift boats fought in groups, so the other OICs who fought alongside Kerry know him well and can accurately describe what he did and did not do. In many cases Kerry's fellow OICs had a better perspective than his own crew members, since the latter had no way to determine whether he was following orders and how well he worked with his peers.
SKERRY KNOWS THEY ARE TELLING THE TRUTH
OR
HE'D RELEASE HIS NAVY RECORDS TO PROVE THEM WRONG.
Wow, a liberal with concern for someones character being challenged...You're a dying breed.
Kerry and his new band of lying brothers have opened up the gates of hell...The leftist lawyers will be busy, busy.
So, does that mean that Kerry's crew, his direct subordinates, are the only ones who know about and can evaluate his conduct? What about his fellow swift boat officers, his superiors, and the crews of other boats who knew him?
After the way that the Democrats trashed Bush on his National Guard service -- without a single substantive witness against him -- Kerry deserves hostile scrutiny by the swift boat veterans and much more.
Perhaps, if Kerry was as heroic as he claims, he might release the service records that he has refused to open to public inspection. Bush released everything, why hasn't Kerry?
Well, I have to agree with Slan, that how do you not accept the 12 Admirals and Generals who support him, plus the crew at the Convention, as compared to John O'Neill who obviously wants to sell his book and is an acknowledged Political opponent, plus these gentlemen who merely were in VietNam.
And as for asking for John's records to be released, every single one has. Please recheck.
not his medical records.
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