[SunkenCiv]

Reply-to names obtained from The Revision of Ancient History - A Perspective and the much newer Study: Dinosaurs Died Within Hours After Asteroid Hit

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	Ages in Chaos by Immanuel Velikovsky
	Oedipus and Akhnaton Myth and History by Immanuel Velikovsky
	Ramses II And His Time by Immanuel Velikovsky
	Peoples of the Sea by Immanuel Velikovsky
	Worlds In Collision by Immanuel Velikovsky
	Stargazers and Gravediggers:> Memoirs to Worlds in Collision by Immanuel Velikovsky
	Earth in Upheaval by Immanuel Velikovsky
	Mankind in Amnesia by Immanuel Velikovsky

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I've had a long interest in Velikovsky, dating back to the early 1970s. Lately I've been reading the following title, which provides a nice synopsis of "Ages In Chaos", the aspect of V's work that most interests me:

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The Synchronized Chronology: Rethinking Middle East Antiquity by Roger Henry hardcover Adobe Reader digital version d/l website The California Institute for Ancient Studies (very Velikovsky-like)

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[SunkenCiv]

Click the link(s) below to see my review. I wrote it under the name "HolyOlio".

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Solving the Exodus Mystery Vol. 1: Discovery of the True Pharaohs of Joseph, Moses, and the Exodus by Ted T. Stewart

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[Eastbound]

Not sure what the blog rules are, as I never posted on one before. But thanks for the ping. Trust this will end up as a treasure trove for all of us who are still interested in the origins of man and creation in general.

While I am here, may I mention "The Lost Book of Enki,' by Zecharia Sitchin. The Memoirs and Prophecies of an Extraterrestrial God. (Fiction/Mythology) I think it is his latest book. It is written as prose and attempts to portray the key points of his research in a highly condensed chronology covering his entire works -- and what I think is a creative piece of writing, but alas, I fear, one that only a Sitchin fan would enjoy.

Connects some dots, expands the archeological/astro-archeological playing fields, and if nothing else, is great science-fiction. I've read all of the Sitchin material several times and it currently serves as my ancient world view, subject to alteration and modification, of course, as a proper response to the continuing stream of new evidence which confirms or disputes any aspect of the material.

Sorry if this is not appropriate for your blog. In which case, please delete. Thanks again and please keep me on your ping list.

[AndrewC]

Thanks for the ping!

[SunkenCiv]

I've posted my Amazon review of this title (see the "in reply to" link here as well) but it isn't up yet (about 10:30 pm Sunday).

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The Synchronized Chronology: Rethinking Middle East Antiquity by Roger Henry hardcover Adobe Reader digital version d/l website The California Institute for Ancient Studies (very Velikovsky-like)

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[SunkenCiv]

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The Linear B Tablets and Mycenaean Social, Political, and Economic Organization
Lesson 25, The Prehistoric Archaeology of the Aegean ^ | Revised: Friday, March 18, 2000 | Trustees of Dartmouth College

Posted on 08/29/2004 8:19:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

KO-RE-TE, PO-RO-KO-RE-TE [koreter, prokoreter] -- Such officials are known at both Knossos and Pylos. The titles bear a suspiciously close resemblance to the Latin terms curator and procurator ("guardian" and "manager, imperial officer/governor" respectively). The Linear B evidence suggests that the koreter was a local official in charge of one of the sixteen major administrative units within the Pylian kingdom, and the prokoreter was evidently his deputy.

(Excerpt) Read more at projectsx.dartmouth.edu ...

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A Proper Dating of the Linear B Tablets
by Jesse E. Lasken
ESOP 1993 v 22

While there is general agreement that the language of the Linear B tablets was Greek, many words lack clear cut Greek etymologies and have not been satisfactorily translated. This has led to suggestions that the tablets may contain a sort of jargon combining several languages. I will demonstrate the equivalence of the Mycenaean terms ko-re-te, po-ko-re-te, e-qu-ta, and ra-wa-ke-ta [with] the Latin terms curator, procurator, equite, and legatus and discuss other evidence suggesting that Latin was included in the Linear B tablets. I am not disputing that Mycenaean is a Greek tongue; however, the scribes who prepared these tablets were also using, to a limited extent, certain Latin terms and constructions.

Lasken is often wrong, sez Ev Cochrane, and I have to agree in certain cases (I won't give you one example Cochrane cited, it's too far gone :'), but he seems to be onto something here. He claims that some Linear B tablets contain Latin terms, and must date after circa 207 BC. This is not to say that they all must, nor does it take into account the fact that Latin is older than this and the loan vocabulary could have resulted from the extensive commerce, but not so much older that the existence of the Greek Dark Age isn't shown to be imaginary. :') Notice that the Dartmouth paper just mentions a couple of these as suspicious, but offers no critique of it.

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The GGG Digest -- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

1 posted on 08/29/2004 8:19:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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GGG, back toward ancient languages.

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The GGG Digest -- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

2 posted on 08/29/2004 8:20:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)

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[SunkenCiv]

A Proper Dating of the Linear B Tablets
by Jesse E. Lasken
ESOP 1993 v 22

While there is general agreement that the language of the Linear B tablets was Greek, many words lack clear cut Greek etymologies and have not been satisfactorily translated. This has led to suggestions that the tablets may contain a sort of jargon combining several languages. I will demonstrate the equivalence of the Mycenaean terms ko-re-te, po-ko-re-te, e-qu-ta, and ra-wa-ke-ta [with] the Latin terms curator, procurator, equite, and legatus and discuss other evidence suggesting that Latin was included in the Linear B tablets. I am not disputing that Mycenaean is a Greek tongue; however, the scribes who prepared these tablets were also using, to a limited extent, certain Latin terms and constructions.

Lasken is often wrong, sez Ev Cochrane, and I have to agree in certain cases (I won't give you one example Cochrane cited, it's too far gone :'), but he seems to be onto something here. He claims that some Linear B tablets contain Latin terms, and must date after circa 207 BC. This is not to say that they all must, nor does it take into account the fact that Latin is older than this and the loan vocabulary could have resulted from the extensive commerce, but not so much older that the existence of the Greek Dark Age isn't shown to be imaginary. :') Notice that the Dartmouth paper just mentions a couple of these as suspicious, but offers no critique of it.

Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest -- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

[SunkenCiv]

GGG, back toward ancient languages.

Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest -- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

[SunkenCiv]

Saw this book locally today and picked it up. Much cheaper through Amazon. A whole section on Velikovsky. Recognized the author's name from his website, which was linked from Jerry Pournelle's.

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Kicking the Sacred Cow: Questioning the Unquestionable and Thinking the Impermissable by James P. Hogan James P. Hogan

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[SunkenCiv]

I'm now at 896, which is my second-highest ever rating as a reader reviewer on Amazon (AFAIK, my highest was 895). Sooo, I'm like many others, a many-way tie for 896. Ah well, I need more "yes" votes, and I'm not shy about begging for 'em:

My Reviews

Amazon seems reluctant to post some of my reviews, even those which are not of political works. Since Amazon seems to employ plenty of single-party-state-leftist twerps, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that they'd want to repress other views.

[SunkenCiv]

Saw your post there:

230 posted on 11/28/2002 6:00:39 AM PST by the-ironically-named-proverbs2
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/796256/posts?page=230#230

Thought I'd ping you. See the in-reply-to link here.

[SunkenCiv]

A New Chronology
Synopsis of David Rohl's book "A Test of Time" by John Fulton
Topic: Christianity
Debate Topics: Historical
Posted by: Scythian () * 05/17/99 21:13:10 PDT
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3740e8e50733.htm

[SunkenCiv]

I thought this stealthy topic might be of interest, due to your postings in:

Viking sagas read through the lens of climate change
EurekAlert | March 9, 2005
Posted on 03/10/2005 8:19:28 AM PST by Squawk 8888
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1360081/posts

[SunkenCiv]

now *this* is a ping. ;')

Electric Arcs in Planetary Science
Thunderbolts Picture of the Day | 3/7/2005
Posted on 03/07/2005 11:19:39 PM PST by Swordmaker
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1358256/posts

Martian "Blueberries" in the Lab
Thunderbolts Picture of the Day | Mar 25, 2005
Posted on 03/28/2005 9:58:11 PM PST by Swordmaker
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1372790/posts

When Dust Storms Engulf Mars
Thunderbolts Picture of the Day | Mar 24, 2005 | Mel Acheson
Posted on 03/28/2005 10:19:07 PM PST by Swordmaker
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1372800/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?name=swordmaker

[SunkenCiv]

the author's website should be checked before buying this book, because there's a wild mixture, including Edgar Cayce. But the chapter hosted on the Schoch website suggests the book is worth a look at least.

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Moses in the Twelfth Dynasty Egyptian Literature: A Reconstruction by Aris M. Hobeth the website "Sinuhe as Moses" (Robert Schoch's website)

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[SunkenCiv]

see message 33 (saw your interest in the "Electric comet" topic SwordMaker started).

Predictions on Deep Impact
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1435997/posts

[Fred Nerks]

Thanks for the links to your reviews SunkenCiv. USF, you might find these interesting.

[Fred Nerks]

sorry, I meant post #33. SunkenCiv reviews Velikovsky.

[SunkenCiv]

In his bio of Eugene Shoemaker, David Levy, astronomer and codiscoverer of Comet SL-9 (he and Carolyn Shoemaker are both in the top ten comet discoverers -- most comets are now discovered by robotic means so no person gets credit), mentioned Velikovsky: "[i]n 1950 Worlds in Collision was published... Velikovsky inferred from historical facts and mythology that an unlikely series of comet impacts caused some biblical events... The details of Velikovsky's ideas were so strongly ridiculed that his theme that impacts have indeed affected the Earth, was clouded and lost." While there are no impacts of comets in WiC, the fact that Levy alluded to the shameful actions directed against Velikovsky speaks well for his character and fairness as a scientist and writer.

Shoemaker: the Man Who Made an Impact
by David H. Levy

[SunkenCiv]

from the SIS website:

The Society for Interdisciplinary Studies
The SIS was formed in 1974 in response to a growing interest in the works of modern catastrophists such as Dr Immanuel Velikovsky, stimulating controversy in the fields of cosmology, geology and ancient history. The SIS publishes two high quality journals which have included articles by and about Velikovsky.

Catastrophisim: Man Myth and Mayhem in Ancient History and the Sciences. Have there been worldwide catastrophic events in mankind's more recent past? This CD-Rom helps you investigate for yourself.

The Immanuel Velikovsky Archive. Maintained by a team of historians to ensure the integrity and preservation of Velikovsky’s unpublished writings, the Archive is strictly non-profit and its sole purpose is the advancement of education and scholarship.

Kronia Communications
Offering access to a number of sources and products, Kronia aims to bring about a greater understanding of the work of Immanuel Velikovsky and his colleagues. Includes background information, biography, dozens of articles, recent developments in the field such as the Saturn Hypothesis, and a video documentary "Remembering the End of the World"

Aeon, A Journal of Myth & Science
First published in 1988, Aeon builds on the works Immanuel Velikovsky, presenting further evidence of catastrophic planetary interactions in historic times. It is devoted to the collection and exploration of archaeo-astronomical traditions and analysis of common patterns in ancient myths from around the world.

The Velikovskian
The Velikovskian journal offers an open discussion of whether there were global cataclysms in human history, their cause, nature and impact of these upheavals. As an important issue in science, history and humanity, it is deserving of our attention. Also features the book, Carl Sagan & Immanuel Velikovsky.

[SunkenCiv]

I have some sad news to report. I did a Google search for Robert Compton and found that he'd died in April. I've corresponded with him for, hmm, about fifteen years, and he was a good guy, and a smart guy. He was generous, sending me a copy of another book he'd self-published, as well as a couple gizmos he'd invented (not electronic or anything, just a handy gadget).

Robert had retired perhaps eight years ago and had turned one of his many hobbies into a fulltime thing -- high powered amateur rocketry. Below I've reprised links and quotes regarding his rocket work, and (the reason this is a Velikovsky ping) a link to his book on Velikovsky's chronology revision. I'll be changing my Amazon profile to reflect his decease, as I've been referring people directly to him (via email) when they've wanted to buy one of his remaining copies of the V book. As he said, "it's a good book".

Rest in peace, old bud'. Glad you were right at it right to the end. Sorry I never got to meet you in person.

Badly burned rocket hobbyist dies
by Elizabeth Hume
Sacramento Bee Staff Writer
Friday, April 21, 2006

SACRAMENTO - A man severely burned while building small rockets in his Antelope garage earlier this month died Wednesday night in UC Davis Medical Center, authorities said.

Robert Wayne Compton, 62, was in his garage on Grey Livery Way when the fire started about 7:30 p.m. April 9. The fire was quickly put out, but Compton was severely burned, Sacramento Metro Fire District officials said.

Compton was transported to the Medical Center with burns over more than 30 percent of his body.

An investigation indicated Compton was distilling hydrogen peroxide just before the blaze, district spokesman Engineer Christian Pebbles said.

Static Test of Hydrogen Peroxide Kerosene Motor
by Robert Compton

"Our present plan for the coming year is to develop an 8'' diameter 500 lb/sec throttleable regeneratively cooled motor. The performance of the H2O2/kerosene motors is not trivial producing the highest density impulse of any usable oxidizer/fuel combination. We hope this report will encourage further development among amateur rocket designers."

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A guide to Immanuel Velikovsky's Reconstruction of Ancient History: 1550 to 300 BC by Robert W Compton Design notes log, G.O.D. (another title)

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The Sacramento L5 Society website still shows Robert as its president.

[gleeaikin]

I read 3 of the Velikovski books in the 1970’s. I was much impressed with his large collection of data, although I did not think his Venus/Mars hypothesis was correct. However, I certainly think there were serious extra-terrestrial disturbances that have strongly impacted our history.