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4. Do we mean for the Reform Party candidate to win? This is not a goal of this group. We want to create a public demand for a small government GOP without leaving the party.

He's preaching to the wrong crowd if he's trying to convert (interesting choice of words) 91% of the same party within who will continue their quest to keep the sanctity of marriage intact, preserve the freedom of this country, fight terror wherever it gathers, and appoint Conservative God-loving judges to the bench who will protect and defend the Constitution. Chuck Baldwin is the enemy within who will not see to it that we shall live in splendorous freedom that we are fighting to protect from the evil that lurks just over the horizon and inside our borders.

As much as I hate ad hominem reply, this is simply moronic, sounding like the ranting and raving of a 18th/19th century Luddite at the blossoming industrial age.

1. Congress appropriates. If you truly want less government, make that clear to your congressman that you want to see less spending. And remember, less spending begins at home. Tell your congressman no pork in your neighborhood. Bet you haven't got enough guts to do this.

2. Trade restriction had some potential for local economic benefit back in the days when information flowed on quill scribed pages that moved between continents by horse or sailing ship. In a world of near instant and incredibly cheap information flow, trade restriction is a guarantee of backwardness and economic failure. This is an irretrievable consequence of the information age. And the only way alternative is a declining third world economy.

Learn to compete and accept the fact that manufacturing is going to be done where labor is cheapest, taking into account the cost of transporting raw materials to their point of use and the finished goods to their point of market. If your living is earned by sweat, don't expect to be paid more here than anyplace else unless your sweat delivers a local service.

3. If you are against immigration and the Bush "guest worker" program, then you should recognize that it is impossible to stop illegal immigration and that so long as our borders represent a line of profound economic demarcation, the flood will continue. Absolutely the best thing that could happen for American jobs and American well being is for the economy of our immediate neighbors to improve. Then free trade is truly bilateral trade and immigration will slow. Alternatively, you can minimize the profundity of economic demarcation by driving our own economy into this cellar. This is the ordained outcome should the latter day anti-free-trade, anti-immigration, America-first, Luddites somehow gain power.

The Bush programs recognize these realities. Unfortunately, the Pat Buchanan, America-First, Republicans are as ignorant on these matters as your average labor union member/blue collar democrat.

4. Labor is always necessary. But until there is much nearer economic parity between say Mexico and the US, US wages for unskilled and semiskilled work will move in the direction of the Mexican norm. If we allow wages to freely float, they will decline, but jobs will stay in America. If we hold the wages artificially high (by means of legislation), jobs will leave. No rational person would predict equilibrium sooner that 20 or 30 years.

In the mean time, assuming Gimmecrats don't gain power and crush our economy forever, those who are smart, hardworking, and well educated will competitively prosper. The Gimmecrats call this the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer and blame the plight of the poor on the rich instead of the information age. But the reality is that the next 20 to 30 years will indeed be rocky with uncertain outcome.

Republicans ought to clearly recognize the truism that 1/2 he people in America have below average IQ's, the future of the not too bright is not too bright, especially given a garden variety public school education, and that the Gimmecrats are clearly targeting the not too bright as their constituency. And since being reasonably bright is hardly a guarantee against being gullible, they can appeal to a few of the smart ones too. We need a positive answer here folks. The answer of the Gimmecrats is that those of us who are smart, well-educated and work hard pay for the rest. But if we do by virtue of wealth transfer, we become totally non-competitive as a nation and move down toward Mexico rather than bringing Mexico upward to US.