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To: Ogmios
Science is limited, why is that such a problem for you?

It's not a problem for me. All I'm doing is trying to clarify assumptions.

For example, you say that science "cannot use God as any sort of causation, and yes, it is therefore limited in its scope."

But again -- if God exists and created the universe, and I'm a scientist hammering away at the idea of what caused the universe, then I've got a real problem if I don't include God among the possible causes.

Now, I tend to agree with you when we discuss scientific stuff in a purely mechanical sense.

76 posted on 10/07/2003 9:54:48 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
But again -- if God exists and created the universe, and I'm a scientist hammering away at the idea of what caused the universe, then I've got a real problem if I don't include God among the possible causes.

There's no real way for science to go back before the Big Bang, at least not based on what we know today. I don't think any scientist is working on figuring out what caused the universe because it's clear that's a question we're incapable of answering scientifically.

84 posted on 10/07/2003 10:47:43 AM PDT by Modernman ("Oh, you all talk big but who here has the guts to stop me!" -Mr. Burns)
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