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To: r9etb
In scientific study, God cannot be used as a causation, you may see this as a fault, I do not.

Faith is for God, scientific evidence, and laws are for science, the 2 are different and do 2 different things, you mix God with science, you get religion, so keep God in religion, because that is exactly where he belongs.

Science cannot use God as a causation and still be science.

Therefore any question of God, must be made at a faith based level, or religion, and science cannot use faith, therefore science cannot use God.

Easy stuff, and I don't want science using God, because then it's answers become useless, and all study stops.

Why should we study why and how, if God did it? God did it, OK, we know the answer, we're done.

I don't want science using God for anything, because that is not what it is for. And science agrees with me, it cannot use God as a causation, because God is beyond physical laws, and can break them at any time he wishes.

And also the fact that you cannot prove the existence or nonexistence of God, which is a REALLY good reason for science to stay away from such faith based thinking.
71 posted on 10/07/2003 9:16:39 AM PDT by Ogmios (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Ogmios
Science cannot use God as a causation and still be science.

For that to be a non-psychotic concept, science has to assume that God can never cause anything. Not to mention that this assumption presumes an overarching knowledge of "How Things Are," and that God is not among those "Things."

You can relegate God to "faith" if you want, but in so doing, you also need to be very clear about the assumptions you're making with regard to science.

If, as you say, God played a role at some level in the creation of life, then either you're admitting a serious limitation on what science can do; or you're improperly constraining science such that it cannot reach the proper conclusion.

72 posted on 10/07/2003 9:26:33 AM PDT by r9etb
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