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To: SteveH
All of our fates are connected in some way, I would absolutely agree. BTW we checked out SLO for our kid this past summer, as well as several other campuses. SLO was extremely impressive over almost all the alternatives we saw. As you may be aware, the entry standards are high and certain programs are "impacted". Things are tough all around in the state... good luck to your kid.

So is your kid going to SLO? Ours plans to apply for early consideration. Her SAT scores were pretty good at 1390 and she wants to try once more for a 1500. She's headed for valedictorian with her grades though it's neck and neck. They don't consider class rank anyway, just GPA, so she's safe there. She wants architecture and took a 3-week immersion program at USC this past summer, so I think her chances are pretty good.

Interesting, my only (and uninformed) impression of Hawaii is that it would seem to be the type of place where liberals might hang out and infest state elected offices. (Regardless of the military base presence there, it would seem.)

Ah yes, but our military presence (ourselves included) don't vote here because of high taxes. We vote in Texas, Florida, and Alaska if we've ever been stationed there. We plan on retiring here though, so we'll be in the voting pool soon enough. It is very liberal, but the relatively conservative populace despite their voting habits is beginning to smell the corruption emanating from 50 years of Democrat rule.

I wonder if a lot of this stuff would have been avoided simply by having some kind of primary arranged by party leaders early on to permit everyone the luxury of not having to attack each other with the verbal tomahawks. I don't know why it was not done at the time, perhaps it was not practical for some situational reason. Anyway, water over the bridge... back to the verbal slug-fest... sigh... ;-)

Don't think that would be legal the way the wording of the recall happens. Even if there were an unofficial one there wouldn't have been any provision to keep anyone else from jumping in. A lot of Republicans have written off California as hopeless, mostly because of the primary process. The CA Republicans seem to be in the same mold as Howard Dean supporters - throw themselves behind a candidate that won't appeal to the majority of independent voters.

424 posted on 09/15/2003 4:38:33 PM PDT by Spyder (Just another day in Paradise)
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To: Spyder
So is your kid going to SLO? Ours plans to apply for early consideration. Her SAT scores were pretty good at 1390 and she wants to try once more for a 1500. She's headed for valedictorian with her grades though it's neck and neck. They don't consider class rank anyway, just GPA, so she's safe there. She wants architecture and took a 3-week immersion program at USC this past summer, so I think her chances are pretty good.

No, not yet, but our kid has SLO as his first choice. His tests tend to be within range but his academic discipline tendencies will make the application process "interesting" to say the least. Sounds as if your kid is well positioned, though... good for her... As you must be well aware, the CSU tuition underwent a significant hike this semester, and I would imagine that more such hikes in the future may be imminent with the state budget implosion affecting higher ed along with everything else...

Ah yes, but our military presence (ourselves included) don't vote here because of high taxes. We vote in Texas, Florida, and Alaska if we've ever been stationed there. We plan on retiring here though, so we'll be in the voting pool soon enough. It is very liberal, but the relatively conservative populace despite their voting habits is beginning to smell the corruption emanating from 50 years of Democrat rule.

That's good. Whenever I'm in Honolulu (very infrequently) I like running on the beach. Strangely, it's very enjoyable for me. Gives me the welcome illusion that I am actually in decent physical shape ;-). I know I miss out on the "real" Hawaii but I think as a non-native there will always be stuff I will miss out on. I use Magnum PI reruns to give me the spoonfed sense of Hawaii, sorry, it's easier than moving there and less costly than an extended vacation, regardless of the distortions of TV... ;-)

Don't think that would be legal the way the wording of the recall happens. Even if there were an unofficial one there wouldn't have been any provision to keep anyone else from jumping in. A lot of Republicans have written off California as hopeless, mostly because of the primary process. The CA Republicans seem to be in the same mold as Howard Dean supporters - throw themselves behind a candidate that won't appeal to the majority of independent voters.

Mostly right on, as far as I can tell. I wonder about that legality thing. It looks as if it did not prevent the Democrats from achieving some semblance of party unity. How did they, with their lower brain capabilities and all, manage to out-organize the superior-intellect-blessed Republicans? I get the impression that a purely informal bake-off would have worked just fine, somewhere somehow where Arnold, McC, and some of the other (R)s could have met and tossed ideas around on a level playing field without any formal voting occuring. IANAL though so I can't absolutely guarantee it would not be illegal...

429 posted on 09/15/2003 5:09:48 PM PDT by SteveH ((Can't we all just GET ALONG!?! ;-))
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