[VadeRetro]

Kiddo, if you want to point the finger of blame, and think that's going to cut it with me, well -- all I can say is, to the extent you think you can do that, you are telling me you refuse to "look into the mirror".... No assumption of personal responsibility there, guy.

Well, if we aren't full circle! You opened the discussion citing a post of Patrick's as an example of how far south things had gone on these threads. Nasty old evos!

Nobody's asking you to take personal responsibility for ALS and C-Jen, but if you're going to run point fingers you need to get out of the pig-pen.

[ALS]

"ALS and C-Jen"

ahhh the game becomes clearER

[betty boop]

...if you're going to run point fingers you need to get out of the pig-pen.

Such a characterization of what is going on here is beneath contempt. Number one, I have strenuously avoided "pointing fingers" at all. To invite someone to "look into the mirror" -- a completely general, equal-opportunity invitation -- is hardly to point a finger at specific individuals. Number two, I resent your characterization of people whom I like and respect as denizens of any putative "pig pen," especially since their characterization as such seems to rely exclusively on your own utterly subjective whim.

If there is a "pig pen" here, maybe it exists only between your own two ears. (Just a guess.)

[gore3000]

Nobody's asking you to take personal responsibility for ALS and C-Jen, but if you're going to run point fingers you need to get out of the pig-pen.

Is that an example of civility or is it an example of utter hypocrisy?