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To: Stultis
...the two theories are divergent in every respect, as I have noted: Communism is historically deterministic, evolution is contigent; communism is collectivist, evolution is individualist; communism is finalistic, evolution is open ended; and so on.

You know what's really ironic? Marx's conception of the inevitable historical progression up the ladder from primitive communism, thru the peasant system, feudalism, capitalism, and then the end point of communism, looks very much like the Great Chain of Being - which Darwin refuted!

Surely I'm not the only one who's noticed that. Do you know of any writer who's made that connection?

2,247 posted on 08/10/2003 12:35:00 AM PDT by jennyp (Science thread posters: I've signed The Agreement. Have you?)
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To: jennyp
hahaha!

"Although it is developed in the crude English style, this is a book which contains the basis of natural history for our views."
Karl Marx on Darwin's Origin of Species
December, 1860

spin spin spin
2,248 posted on 08/10/2003 12:39:08 AM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: jennyp; ALS
I can't off the top of my head, but the observation that Marxism is a sort of secular religion has been made many times. It even has martyrs (Julius and Ethel).

I find Marx and other commies unreadable, the jargon is awful and the lack of empiricism is a dead giveaway that we're dealing with revelation, not science or scholarship.

The contrast between Marx and, say, von Mises or Hayek or Friedman is overwheming. Jargon VS plain but precise language, armchair speculation VS real life and real histroy.

It's amazing that a poster on FR would continually post links to commie websites. I've never seen that before!

2,250 posted on 08/10/2003 12:45:08 AM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: jennyp
... looks very much like the Great Chain of Being ...

The great chain of being was ID. Some folks thought it was God's learning curve.

2,294 posted on 08/10/2003 9:03:54 AM PDT by js1138
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