[tophat9000]

Creationism vs Evolution

The debate boils down to is "origin of cause"

In looking at this if you go back to the start, taken logicaly evolution must assume there is no origin of cause... the universe started from a spontaneous effect

Eternal cause vs Spontaneous effect

I find belief in spontaneous effect more supernatural & illogical then belief in a eternal cause

[RightWhale]

In looking at this if you go back to the start, taken logicaly evolution must assume there is no origin of cause...

Logically speaking, there was no logic then. Not as we understand logic. Logic was invented a few years back, Plato, Aristotle, that kind of thing. Origin - we can make up words, ideas, concepts, but that doesn't imply a corresponding object: space-time is not Cartesian, not a graph, lacks axes, and lacks an origin. Origin of cause-effect: how long has this non-existent thing been sitting over in the corner next to the Home Entertainment Center?

[Buck W.]

Evolution and religious faith coexist quite nicely, despite the zealotry of both sides.

[Havisham]

Creationism vs Evolution

The debate boils down to is "origin of cause"

In looking at this if you go back to the start, taken logicaly evolution must assume there is no origin of cause... the universe started from a spontaneous effect

Eternal cause vs Spontaneous effect

I find belief in spontaneous effect more supernatural &
illogical then belief in a eternal cause

Thank you tophat9000 (since we're doing away with punctuation altogether ;) )

[Dataman]

I find belief in spontaneous effect more supernatural & illogical then belief in a eternal cause

Exactly right.

The idea of eternal dirt is "scientific" but the idea of an eternal Creator is absurd.

The idea that God created is myth. The idea that dirt created itself is "science."

The idea that God created life reveals the inability to understand science. The idea that dirt created life reveals great intelligence.