Pheobe Debates The Theory of Evolution

Original scene from the show... Friends. ^ | NA | NA

[Mr.Atos]

I was just lisening to Medved debating Creationism with Athiests on the air. I found it interesting that while Medved argued his side quite effectively from the standpoint of faith, his opponents resorted to condescension and beliitled him with statements like, "when it rains, is that God crying?" I was reminded of the best (at least most amusing)debate that I have ever heard on the subject of Creationism vs Evolution, albeit a fictional setting. It occurred on the show, Friends of all places between the characters Pheobe (The Hippy) and Ross (The Paleontologist). It went like this...

Pheebs: Okay...it's very faint, but I can still sense him in the building...GO INTO THE LIGHT MR. HECKLES!!

Ross: Whoa, whoa, whoa. What, uh, you don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: Nah. Not really. Ross: You don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: I don't know. It's just, ya know, monkeys, Darwin, ya know, it's a, it's a nice story. I just think it's a little too easy.

Ross: Uh, excuse me. Evolution is not for you to buy, Phoebe. Evolution is scientific fact. Like, like, the air we breathe, like gravity... Pheebs: Uh, okay, don't get me started on gravity.

Ross: You uh, you don't believe in gravity? Pheebs: Well, it's not so much that ya know, like I don't *believe* in it, ya know. It's just...I don't know. Lately I get the feeling that I'm not so much being pulled down, as I am being pushed.

Ross: How can you NOT BELIEVE in evolution? Pheebs: [shrugs] I unh-huh...Look at this funky shirt!!

Ross: Well, there ya go. Pheebs: Huh. So now, the REAL question is: who put those fossils there, and why...?

Ross: OPPOSABLE THUMBS!! Without evolution, how do YOU explain OPPOSABLE THUMBS?!? Pheebs: Maybe the overlords needed them to steer their spacecrafts!

Pheebs: Uh-oh! Scary Scientist Man!

Pheebs: Okay, Ross? Could you just open your mind like, *this* much?? Okay? Now wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in the world believed that the Earth was flat? And up until what, like, fifty years ago, you all thought the atom was the smallest thing, until you split it open, and this like, whole mess o' crap came out! Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny, tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?!?

Pheebs: I can't believe you caved. Ross: What? Pheebs: You just ABANDONED your whole belief system! I mean, before, I didn't agree with you, but at least I respected you. Ross: But uh.. Pheebs: Yeah...how...how are you gonna go in to work tomorrow? How...how are you gonna face the other science guys? How...how are you gonna face yourself? Oh! [Ross runs away dejected] Pheebs: That was fun. So who's hungry?

[VadeRetro]

Enjoy!

[ALS]

YOU said:
"Delusional Creationists placemarker for me."

But YOU'VE also said:
"Intolerance of another because of their religious beliefs is NOT only unconstitutional, and tells me that they could give a rip about it, it is also racist, which is something that they claim to abhor, but to dislike or hate someone because of their religious beliefs, is JUST as racist as hating someone because of the color of their skin."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/943130/posts?page=1590#1590

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hypocrite?

[Aric2000]

tick tock?

Wow, I can type that too!!

I do believe that ALS is threatening us, ohh, I am so scared!! NOT....

Good night Vade....

[ALS]

ahh thanks! We'll just add this, "poster boy for creationist fundamentalism" from #679

[PatrickHenry]

Well, after that, her opinion isn't gonna mean a lot to me, because it is VERY obvious who is who in this thread. I thought that she was actually fair in her opinions and posts, I guess I was wrong.

Don't take it like that. I'm sure BB did the best she could. These things are difficult.

[Aric2000]

Delusional is an adjective, describing a certain type of creationist that I am talking about, NOT creationists in general. You knew EXACTLY the creationist I was talking about, so the point was made.

Sorry stud, the generalities don't work around here, the AM's are a bit smarter then that, no matter how hard you wish otherwise.

[ALS]

*clunk*
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/952079/posts?page=682#682

[VadeRetro]

These things are difficult.

More like impossible. The light bulb has to want to change.

[jennyp]

There-went-three-hours-Ill-never-see-again PLACEMARKER.

[Junior]

"When Trolls Collide" placemarker.

[VadeRetro]

Whole-day-and-then-some-shot-to-hell PLACEMARKER.

[ALS]

I'm eating

you buffoons keep on buffooning

brb

[Tribune7]

Right now, the only legal public ideology in America is science, . . . I can see how evolution can be seen as a symbol of all the excesses of social engineering in public schools.

Perceptive.

[CobaltBlue]

One of the reasons I bring up heresy is because I find the concepts of heresy and orthodoxy fascinating. If you ever study the history of Athanasianism vs. Arianism it was a very close call and very political.

For a while, Athanasians were heretics, but they won.

As winners, they got to rewrite history.

I have a hard time figuring out where fundamentalists stand on orthodoxy vs. heresy. On the one hand, I read your posts to the effect of there being 12 Apostles and Jesus never settled their disputes and Revelations says there are more than one church, and on the other hand I am told that I am not a real Christian because I don't believe this and that.

[betty boop]

You have concluded that I'm the bad guy in this shabby little drama. Okay. Thank you for your opinion.

And thus you make little moi the "bad guy" of this piece....

Ditching responsibility -- again -- are we? And while you're at it, attibuting motives to me -- that I am operating under the assumption that you are a "bad guy" -- to boot!

There is nothing that I wrote that even remotely suggests this. But you were kind enough to "fill in the blanks," now weren't you? (i.e., by attributing motives to me which weren't my motives at all.)

May I say how thoroughly sick I am of playing this trivial (and even irrational) game by now?

What does it take to get you to "buy a clue?"

[betty boop]

...if you're going to run point fingers you need to get out of the pig-pen.

Such a characterization of what is going on here is beneath contempt. Number one, I have strenuously avoided "pointing fingers" at all. To invite someone to "look into the mirror" -- a completely general, equal-opportunity invitation -- is hardly to point a finger at specific individuals. Number two, I resent your characterization of people whom I like and respect as denizens of any putative "pig pen," especially since their characterization as such seems to rely exclusively on your own utterly subjective whim.

If there is a "pig pen" here, maybe it exists only between your own two ears. (Just a guess.)

[VadeRetro]

Number two, I resent your characterization of people whom I like and respect as denizens of any putative "pig pen," especially since their characterization as such seems to rely exclusively on your own utterly subjective whim.

Facts have been submitted to a candid world.

[VadeRetro]

sTROLLing out for the night placemarker.

[PatrickHenry]

May I say how thoroughly sick I am of playing this trivial (and even irrational) game by now? What does it take to get you to "buy a clue?"

BB, I have accepted your judgment without argument; and I attribute no motive to you other than sincerity. I deeply regret that my postings make you sick. I also regret my condition of utter cluelessness. God bless you.

[ALS]

woops!