Posted on 07/24/2003 1:55:39 PM PDT by Mr.Atos
I was just lisening to Medved debating Creationism with Athiests on the air. I found it interesting that while Medved argued his side quite effectively from the standpoint of faith, his opponents resorted to condescension and beliitled him with statements like, "when it rains, is that God crying?" I was reminded of the best (at least most amusing)debate that I have ever heard on the subject of Creationism vs Evolution, albeit a fictional setting. It occurred on the show, Friends of all places between the characters Pheobe (The Hippy) and Ross (The Paleontologist). It went like this...
Pheebs: Okay...it's very faint, but I can still sense him in the building...GO INTO THE LIGHT MR. HECKLES!!
Ross: Whoa, whoa, whoa. What, uh, you don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: Nah. Not really. Ross: You don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: I don't know. It's just, ya know, monkeys, Darwin, ya know, it's a, it's a nice story. I just think it's a little too easy.
Ross: Uh, excuse me. Evolution is not for you to buy, Phoebe. Evolution is scientific fact. Like, like, the air we breathe, like gravity... Pheebs: Uh, okay, don't get me started on gravity.
Ross: You uh, you don't believe in gravity? Pheebs: Well, it's not so much that ya know, like I don't *believe* in it, ya know. It's just...I don't know. Lately I get the feeling that I'm not so much being pulled down, as I am being pushed.
Ross: How can you NOT BELIEVE in evolution? Pheebs: [shrugs] I unh-huh...Look at this funky shirt!!
Ross: Well, there ya go. Pheebs: Huh. So now, the REAL question is: who put those fossils there, and why...?
Ross: OPPOSABLE THUMBS!! Without evolution, how do YOU explain OPPOSABLE THUMBS?!? Pheebs: Maybe the overlords needed them to steer their spacecrafts!
Pheebs: Uh-oh! Scary Scientist Man!
Pheebs: Okay, Ross? Could you just open your mind like, *this* much?? Okay? Now wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in the world believed that the Earth was flat? And up until what, like, fifty years ago, you all thought the atom was the smallest thing, until you split it open, and this like, whole mess o' crap came out! Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny, tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?!?
Pheebs: I can't believe you caved. Ross: What? Pheebs: You just ABANDONED your whole belief system! I mean, before, I didn't agree with you, but at least I respected you. Ross: But uh.. Pheebs: Yeah...how...how are you gonna go in to work tomorrow? How...how are you gonna face the other science guys? How...how are you gonna face yourself? Oh! [Ross runs away dejected] Pheebs: That was fun. So who's hungry?
A good definition of trollish behavior. Rather like a rotten kid who keeps asking: "Are we there yet?" Or perhaps like a troll who keeps posting out-of-context snippets from four-year-old threads as examples of alleged "Christian bashing," knowing full well that the context has previously been given and the posts have already been explained.
It's only been going on for about 3 months. Give the sisters time to notice!
Actually it was g3k who called Cobalt a stalking horse and a false Catholic. I got caught up in that and accused the wrong poster. Had to backtrak. I think the thread is still active.
Are ANY of you claiming to post with the respect that you whine is lacking from the opposition?
Interesting. So you view your comments as calm, reasoned, logical - but the comments of those who believe in creation rather than evolution are 'jihadist'?
That tells so much about how you are.
Let's see it
I dare you to back that up with some "proof" (in context).
I don't want to rock your world too badly, but. . .
Reagan was a creationist too.
What's missing here is a discussion of quantity. I can honestly say that both sides have engaged in name calling. Both sides have engaged in preemptive counterattacks. What is new is the shear quantity of invective. It has been quite common in the past for individuals to get into heated discussions of each other's intelligence. That happens all the time.
What is new is the attempt to shut down the threads with quantity of noise.
Hint: this thread is pretty civil, even though there is disagreement.
Please cite an example and the context.
Have you overlooked who we are talking about? Are you including yourself in that fan club? Can disruptors do no wrong in your eyes simply because they profess to be Christians while acting as hooligans?
Show me where I called someone "different"...and then please explain to me how ME (a female) posting a PINK placemarker is "homosexual innuendo".
If you're interested in WHY I made that placemarker just ask.
You, of all people, have alotta nerve claiming anyone else's behavior is "hooligan"-ish.
Is this an example of the posting style you wish?
BB and A-Girl are actively watching this thread, and anyone who cares about their opinion will naturally be on his good behavior. I can recall threads -- presumably now deleted, where for dozens of posts at a time there would be nothing but taunts, insults, and invitations to flame wars, and all from the new crowd, as the evolution side had pretty much decided not to "feed the trolls." BB and A-Girl weren't active in thost threads,so I assume they don't know how truly abominable their new friends can behave, and now the threads are gone.
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