Posted on 07/24/2003 1:55:39 PM PDT by Mr.Atos
I was just lisening to Medved debating Creationism with Athiests on the air. I found it interesting that while Medved argued his side quite effectively from the standpoint of faith, his opponents resorted to condescension and beliitled him with statements like, "when it rains, is that God crying?" I was reminded of the best (at least most amusing)debate that I have ever heard on the subject of Creationism vs Evolution, albeit a fictional setting. It occurred on the show, Friends of all places between the characters Pheobe (The Hippy) and Ross (The Paleontologist). It went like this...
Pheebs: Okay...it's very faint, but I can still sense him in the building...GO INTO THE LIGHT MR. HECKLES!!
Ross: Whoa, whoa, whoa. What, uh, you don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: Nah. Not really. Ross: You don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: I don't know. It's just, ya know, monkeys, Darwin, ya know, it's a, it's a nice story. I just think it's a little too easy.
Ross: Uh, excuse me. Evolution is not for you to buy, Phoebe. Evolution is scientific fact. Like, like, the air we breathe, like gravity... Pheebs: Uh, okay, don't get me started on gravity.
Ross: You uh, you don't believe in gravity? Pheebs: Well, it's not so much that ya know, like I don't *believe* in it, ya know. It's just...I don't know. Lately I get the feeling that I'm not so much being pulled down, as I am being pushed.
Ross: How can you NOT BELIEVE in evolution? Pheebs: [shrugs] I unh-huh...Look at this funky shirt!!
Ross: Well, there ya go. Pheebs: Huh. So now, the REAL question is: who put those fossils there, and why...?
Ross: OPPOSABLE THUMBS!! Without evolution, how do YOU explain OPPOSABLE THUMBS?!? Pheebs: Maybe the overlords needed them to steer their spacecrafts!
Pheebs: Uh-oh! Scary Scientist Man!
Pheebs: Okay, Ross? Could you just open your mind like, *this* much?? Okay? Now wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in the world believed that the Earth was flat? And up until what, like, fifty years ago, you all thought the atom was the smallest thing, until you split it open, and this like, whole mess o' crap came out! Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny, tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?!?
Pheebs: I can't believe you caved. Ross: What? Pheebs: You just ABANDONED your whole belief system! I mean, before, I didn't agree with you, but at least I respected you. Ross: But uh.. Pheebs: Yeah...how...how are you gonna go in to work tomorrow? How...how are you gonna face the other science guys? How...how are you gonna face yourself? Oh! [Ross runs away dejected] Pheebs: That was fun. So who's hungry?
Thats an interesting take. I think of it kind of like water running downhill in many rivulets. The trend looks obvious from a distance, but up close there are lots of little bumps and turns.
Beware the firefly nest in the telescope!
LOL.
Fabulous movie! (Blade Runner) :-)
I was at the world science fiction convention that was held just prior to the release of that movie. They had his police car from the movie on display. Unfortunately, since the movie had not been released yet, we were not allowed to take pictures.
They had his police car from the movie on display.
Did it fly? Bladerunner is one of all time favorite Scifi movies. I didnt think the book was as good.
Seems you woke up early today with the express intent of breaking the agreement you made less than 48 hours ago. One part of the agreement was to not to bring up old stuff. You have broken that in spades. Another part of the agreement was that if you bring up a charge against someone you will substantiate it.
I substantiated, completely and fully my charges against Patrick Henry Post# 1377 of the Draft Agreement thread
I shall expect an apology for that and I shall also expect YOU to backup your charges against me.
I love that movie as well! Nope just sat there all roped off. :-)
Another couple of movies that I thought were at least as good as the books (and there are few of those, I do love to read) was both the movie "The Andromeda Strain" and "2001: A Space Odyssey".
One more movie that I though was truly fab was the first "Alien". Aliens was also good, but it was almost a remake of the first. For the suspense, Alien take the cake of the whole series.
Since many of your posts were pulled by the mods against me, some of that exchange with me can never be completely recreated. However, pulled posts are an indication.
BTW, there is enough left to get the picture.
Do you really want to go there at this time?
Sorry to butt in here but I noticed at the top of NakatuX's post:
Yes, it's the 9th, but I'm not going to agree to the agreement until this post is finished.
I agree, but I liked the book too.
"Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" had some great ideas, but was written in a bland way. Ridley Scott took the best out of it and made a great movie.
You pretty much needed to read the book to get what they were driving at in 2001. :-)
Regardless. He expects me to have abided to the terms of the agreement even before it was even discussed months ago. I abided by it after I accepted it even though it was not in force. He had already signed on to it as is shown on Agreement of the Willing. He is in violation and I expect an apology and to back up any charges he will not apologize for.
I totally agree. It all became clearer after reading the book.
BIG TIME! LOL
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