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'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 11/22/2002 | ALAN I. LESHNER

Posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:39 PM PDT by Aric2000

In Cobb County, Ga., controversy erupted this spring when school board officials decided to affix "disclaimer stickers" to science textbooks, alerting students that "evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things."

The stickers were the Cobb County District School Board's response to intelligent design theory, which holds that the complexity of DNA and the diversity of life forms on our planet and beyond can be explained only by an extra-natural intelligent agent. The ID movement -- reminiscent of creationism but more nuanced and harder to label -- has been quietly gaining momentum in a number of states for several years, especially Georgia and Ohio.

Stickers on textbooks are only the latest evidence of the ID movement's successes to date, though Cobb County officials did soften their position somewhat in September following a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. In a subsequent policy statement, officials said the biological theory of evolution is a "disputed view" that must be "balanced" in the classroom, taking into account other, religious teachings.

Surely, few would begrudge ID advocates their views or the right to discuss the concept as part of religious studies. At issue, rather, is whether ID theory, so far unproven by scientific facts, should be served to students on the same platter with the well-supported theory of evolution.

How the Cobb County episode will affect science students remains uncertain since, as the National Center for Science Education noted, the amended policy statement included "mixed signals."

But it's clear that the ID movement is quickly emerging as one of the more significant threats to U.S. science education, fueled by a sophisticated marketing campaign based on a three-pronged penetration of the scientific community, educators and the general public.

In Ohio, the state's education board on Oct. 14 passed a unanimous though preliminary vote to keep ID theory out of the state's science classrooms. But the board's ruling left the door open for local school districts to present ID theory together with science and suggested that scientists should "continue to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory."

In fact, even while the state-level debate continued, the Patrick Henry Local School District, based in Columbus, passed a motion this June to support "the idea of intelligent design being included as appropriate in classroom discussions in addition to other scientific theories."

Undaunted by tens of thousands of e-mails it has already received on the topic, the state's education board is now gamely inviting further public comment through November. In December, Ohio's Board of Education will vote to conclusively determine whether alternatives to evolution should be included in new guidelines that spell out what students need to know about science at different grade levels.

Meanwhile, ID theorists reportedly have been active in Missouri, Kansas, New Mexico, New Jersey and other states as well as Ohio and Georgia.

What do scientists think of all this? We have great problems with the claim that ID is a scientific theory or a science-based alternative to evolutionary theory. We don't question its religious or philosophical underpinnings. That's not our business. But there is no scientific evidence underlying ID theory.

No relevant research has been done; no papers have been published in scientific journals. Because it has no science base, we believe that ID theory should be excluded from science curricula in schools.

In fact, the Board of Directors of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the largest general scientific society in the world, passed a resolution this month urging policy-makers to keep intelligent design theory out of U.S. science classrooms.

Noting that the United States has promised to "leave no child behind," the AAAS Board found that intelligent design theory -- if presented within science courses as factually based -- is likely to confuse American schoolchildren and undermine the integrity of U.S. science education. At a time when standards-based learning and performance assessments are paramount, children would be better served by keeping scientific information separate from religious concepts.

Certainly, American society supports and encourages a broad range of viewpoints and the scientific community is no exception. While this diversity enriches the educational experience for students, science and conceptual belief systems should not be co-mingled, as ID proponents have repeatedly proposed.

The ID argument that random mutations in nature and natural selection, for example, are too complex for scientific explanation is an interesting -- and for some, highly compelling -- philosophical or theological concept. Unfortunately, it's being put forth as a scientifically based alternative to the theory of biological evolution, and it isn't based on science. In sum, there's no data to back it up, and no way of scientifically testing the validity of the ideas proposed by ID advocates.

The quality of U.S. science education is at stake here. We live in an era when science and technology are central to every issue facing our society -- individual and national security, health care, economic prosperity, employment opportunities.

Children who lack an appropriate grounding in science and mathematics, and who can't discriminate what is and isn't evidence, are doomed to lag behind their well-educated counterparts. America's science classrooms are certainly no place to mix church and state.

Alan I. Leshner is CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and executive publisher of the journal Science; www.aaas.org


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To: ALS
I read about the ica stones. They fascinate me too. I wonder if maybe, just maybe perhaps somewhere in the Likoala swamps of Africa perhaps, that one day we might find something really awsome like a dino. It would not surprise me at all.
781 posted on 06/23/2003 6:50:04 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: goodseedhomeschool
Does anyone have a general link to a site that tells about new species being discovered every year. Kind of like a list or something. I would love to see it.
782 posted on 06/23/2003 6:55:07 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: ALS
Here is a sample of the insults you bring to the conversation. For the sake of bandwidth, I just limited them to this thread alone.

Post # 11: You'll need permission from the eloons first.
Post # 87: And ConservaBabes are a lot funnier at parties than soured up evo chicks.
Post # 107: Earth to Cobalt.. This thread is about an article where EVOS don't want any challenging theories. Freudian projection?
Post # 131: Your idea of discourse fits in better with Castro's.
Post # 141: That's because their crap religion is all they have.
Post # 154: Oh yeah, no wonder they hate the Good Book.
Post # 204: This is why the heathen doth rage.
Post # 248: getta grip, and see a priest for that hellfire fear thing you got going.
Post # 287: Obviously you don't know much about evolution, but much about nuts.
Post # 292: Latent guilt complex is the likely culprit.
Post # 301: Some rest and a 1/5th of "tonic" should cure that.
Post # 316: You were asked if you are a muslim. Going into a hissy fit over atheism just reveals your real weaknesses, in public.
Post # 338: Yeah, repent. You'll feel better in no time.
Post # 391: Sounds like his ability to explain himself is on a par with his ability to explain evolunacy.
Post # 623: Dishonesty, thy name is elunacy.
Post # 632: check yer drawers
Post # 663: Like I've been saying, you can't prove your crap theory.
Post # 666: u gals must be totally frustrated then.
Post # 671: just another heathkit wannabe...
Post # 673: latex, no doubt..
Post # 674: I bet you only read Playgirl for the scientific articles, right?
Post # 686: Shouldn't you be tending to the blushing bride?
Post # 691: Give it up sparky.
Post # 695: yeah, ya'll better do as patty sez
Post # 696: Calm down reap, before you strip a nut valve...
Post # 709: I thought patty told you to shut yer piehole?
Post # 710: Shouldn't you be taking out the garbage and mowing the lawn?
Post # 716: You're just jealous cuz you gotta go to the zoo to visit yours....
Post # 722: The Closet Collection™?
Post # 723: Actually it looks like you scored Dahmer's Grab Bag on Ebay. Although C kinda reminds me of you. The overbite gave it away...
Post # 760: The chihuahua is back...

Just wanted your pearls of wisdom all recorded in one place.

783 posted on 06/23/2003 6:56:50 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: gore3000
Here is a nice site describing the scientific method and the difference between theory, hypothesis, and fact:

http://phyun5.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node5.html
784 posted on 06/23/2003 7:03:58 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
Looks like the posts of a person having a little trouble letting it go. Maybe someone who needs a few devils exorcised?

In fairness to his scientific contributions, post 715 contains a link to a site containing three--Count 'em! Three!--old, recycled gore3K screeds.

785 posted on 06/23/2003 7:17:09 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: RadioAstronomer
hahaha!

i'm flattered

such an obsession...
786 posted on 06/23/2003 7:18:51 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: VadeRetro
thanks for the free advertisement!

I take it you've been listening to the CD?
787 posted on 06/23/2003 7:19:39 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: Stultis
Your post means nothing. You can't "prove" common ancestry unless you can trace it, and you can do no such thing. I could just as easily point out that people and dogs each have two eyes, two ears, one mouth, and one nose. Hence, common ancestry. But that would be nonsense to sensible people, although I can see some of your evo buddies thinking I may have hit on something. The only way to trace speciation is via the fossil record, or to see it occur. You can do neither. Pointing to similarities in "design" buys you, exactly, nothing. Car designers use 99% of the same features. I imagine a Creator of nature would do likewise.
788 posted on 06/23/2003 7:20:33 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: gore3000
and that science has disproved evolutionary claims numerous times,

Do you chose to believe that or are you brainwashed ....

789 posted on 06/23/2003 7:23:37 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Aric2000
Finally at least one other is knowledgeable on scientific theory.
790 posted on 06/23/2003 7:25:33 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Timmy
I could just as easily point out that people and dogs each have two eyes, two ears, one mouth, and one nose. Hence, common ancestry.

I have a brain so we must not have a common ancestor.

791 posted on 06/23/2003 7:26:56 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Bellflower
Eric2000, for evolution to be true there should be countless transitional fossils for every fully arrived creature fossil not the other way around. Doesn't your theory say that it took many, many mutations and much survival of the fittest in order for one species to progress into a different more evolved specie. There would have to be coutless fossils of many odd creatures on their way to becoming a species that just didn't make it. Creatures with stubs for wings and partially formed eyeballs, creatures with all kinds of odd combinations and things we would never have imagined existing. Where are the these countless failures that should be overabundunt in supply compared to the few that actually made it?

Good thought Bellflower!

792 posted on 06/23/2003 7:30:36 PM PDT by Bittersweetmd
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To: VadeRetro
My gosh. I'm going to choke I'm laughing so hard. You are going to prove transitionals and the first thing I see is dinosaur to bird transtions. Let me wipe away the tears. You don't give us the easy fish to mammal to primate to man, which should be obvious in the fossil record (but of course, isn't). No, you bring up a hoot on the outrageous dinosaur to bird theory. Vade, it couldn't happen. It's in the lungs, dude. You guys are always a theory looking for evidence, rather than the other way around.

Look, my friend, if Darwin was right, you should be able to prove it via the fossils, without these outlandish theories. Just show us the proof. Darwin said it would be everywhere.

793 posted on 06/23/2003 7:31:07 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: Timmy
I put them in the wrong order so they're all "Poof!" gone and no more need be said? Shall I guess you can keep saying there is no evidence so long as no one can make you see?
794 posted on 06/23/2003 7:35:34 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
OK, I looked at the speciation link. Give me a break. Plants. Oh, and fruitflies bombarded with radiation which turned into . . . mutated FRUITFLIES. I'm CONVINCED! Everyone. Vade Retro has done it! He's proved Darwin's theory. Who can argue with such overwhelming proof? As sure as gravity, it is.

But seriously, it shows that we should bother to look at your sources to remind us how weak your argument (and evidently, logic) is. Just keep saying it, Vade. I believe. I believe. I believe.

795 posted on 06/23/2003 7:37:03 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: Timmy
;)
796 posted on 06/23/2003 7:38:13 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: RadioAstronomer
A nice summary of one of the prime idiots on parade.

Google will remember them long after they are banned for being the adolescent morons that they are.

797 posted on 06/23/2003 7:39:17 PM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: Timmy
I believe we have the old argument from personal incredulity here. Are you going to do the 29+ lines of evidence one at a time or just post a few LOLs at number one?
798 posted on 06/23/2003 7:39:33 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Actually, Vade, old sport, you're zero for two, so I don't plan to waste my time. If you consider those first two as "proof of evolution," it is difficult to see how we can proceed. Enjoy your belief. I need more evidence to convince myself I evolved from a rock.

Say, have you looked into Professor Crick's theory? You know, the guy who discovered DNA? He believes that aliens landed on the earth millions of years ago and planted the first life that eventually evolved. Said otherwise, there was not enough time available. I'll see if I can get you his phone number.

BwaHaHaHa!!!

(I crack myself up) Though the story about Crick is true.

799 posted on 06/23/2003 7:45:32 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: Timmy
#800, poor creo had lost all link to reality.

What else should I expect.

Reality is something that they just do not like to deal with.
800 posted on 06/23/2003 7:46:56 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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