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To: 4ConservativeJustices
"Punishment ex post facto is unconstitutional."

What a maroon. This is a Constitutional Amendment! It can't be unconstitutional!

710 posted on 06/27/2003 3:34:55 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
What a maroon. This is a Constitutional Amendment! It can't be unconstitutional!

Ya think? What part of the Constitution was overturned to allow ex post facto legislation?

At least 127 Federal Acts have been declared unconstitutional. The states have overturned 4 Supreme Court decisions. Over 1,089 state acts have been held unconstitutional, another 124 state ordinances have been held unconstitutional. 204 SCOTUS decisions have been overturned by subsequent courts. SCOTUS has a history of inventing rights out of thin air - this week added several.

The legislators and justices are not perfect, nor are they gods.

725 posted on 06/27/2003 8:25:50 PM PDT by 4CJ ("No man's life, liberty or property are safe while dims and neocons are in control")
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PS. The Constitution STILL contains a prohibition against "Bills of Attainder" as well. What are they? 'A bill of attainder is a legislative act which inflicts punishment without a judicial trial. If the punishment be less than death, the act is termed a bill of pains and penalties. Within the meaning of the Constitution, bills of attainder include bills of pains and penalties.' [Cummings v. State of Missouri, 4 Wall. 277 (1867)]

Justice Black wrote that, '[t]hey stand for the proposition that legislative acts, no matter what their form, that apply either to named individuals or to easily ascertainable members of a group in such a way as to inflict punishment on them without a judicial trial are bills of attainder prohibited by the Constitution.' [United States v. Lovett, 328 U.S. 303 (1946)].

727 posted on 06/27/2003 8:46:37 PM PDT by 4CJ ("No man's life, liberty or property are safe while dims and neocons are in control")
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