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"You're looking one right in the eye and I'm sick and tired of our compassionate conservative friend hiding behind someone else's skirt to politically pander."

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I think you have it backwards. It's the responsibility of Congress to stop this, as they will. If Congress would pass it, expecting Bush to veto it, THAT would mean that Congress is not doing their jobs, and are trying to hide behind the President, putting him in a position of political suicide.

Then you can stay home and not vote, and watch Hillary, or Kerry or some other RAT get elected, and a Dem president would definitely sign it.

So what would be accoplished is for conservative Republicans being "useful idiots" for the Democrats.

Didn't conservatives learn anything from the election of Clinton, when they were made at Bush41 because of him going back on his "no new taxes" promise, and either didn't vote or voted for Ross Perot, and by their actions, THEY elected Clinton.

As in a chess game, you need to look NOT just at the next move, but several moves ahead, at the consequences of your actions.

PS. This is not meant personally against you, this is some general "food for thought" that I wish all "purist" conservatives would think about, that sometimes, they are liberall "cutting off their nose, to spite their face".

As in a chess game, you need to look NOT just at the next move, but several moves ahead, at the consequences of your actions.

That's asking for some of these "gentlemen" to engage the "tactical" portion of their minds. Something I doubt some of them have.

This is not meant personally against you

No offense taken....but

I'm a conservative living in California and I see two issues crucial to the survival of my nation and my state. A well armed citizen populus and control of our borders.

From my perspective Bush has been pandering to the center on the former and to foreign nationals on the latter. Neither posture strikes me as conservative or showing character.

Within the scope of my personal experience I only have Regan to use as a political comparitor for a principaled conservative and I don't recall the pandering from that president. Regan was a politician but he never let his ambitions alienate his base. The same can't be said for George Bush.