[stuartcr]

Good guys, your size, with bare hands vs bad, skinny guys with bare hands, even better odds....especially for those not directly involved. (no stray rounds from someone scared, shooting undisciplined)

[Dead Corpse]

Good guys, your size, with bare hands vs bad, skinny guys with bare hands, even better odds...

Yes. But now what about bad guys my size against your 16 year old daughter. Call 911? The cops are 1/2 hour away at best. The most they will be able to do is clean up the mess.

[demosthenes the elder]

I will point out some obvious facts:
9/11
19 badguys, with boxcutters = 3000+ DEAD goodguys

there is such a thing as acceptable losses.
If I was on a plane, and it got hijacked, and I was armed...
I might die. some passengers MIGHT die. some terrorists WOULD die. and no plane would crash into a friggin skyscraper.
Is the math simple enough for you yet?