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To: Remedy
The next day, Vice President of Academic Affairs, Dr. Vagn Hansen asked Bryson to resign from her position as head of the school's Division of Science and Mathematics.

Your post is misleading. She was (according to my reading) asked to resign as head; this is generally an administrative position, and is separate from her tenured professorship. She'll likely lose little or no salary, and will continue to be a faculty member; she just won't be running the division.

Fair enough, IMO. I wouldn't want a department chair who didn't believe the laws of thermodynamics.

7 posted on 03/11/2003 3:24:26 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
Guess you tripped over the Thermo links in post #1.
9 posted on 03/11/2003 3:31:30 PM PST by Remedy
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To: Right Wing Professor
Excuse me: which actual science did this woman reject?
11 posted on 03/11/2003 3:36:42 PM PST by Notwithstanding (What have you done for LIFE lately?)
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To: Right Wing Professor
"Fair enough, IMO. I wouldn't want a department chair who didn't believe the laws of thermodynamics."

Absolutely correct. Irrespective of my devotion to God, the preponderance of evidence is in the evolutionists favor. Given that, this department chair should be a scientist or mathematician familiar with the concept of scientific research, and as ID and Creationism don't seem to be founded on those principals, her removal as chair is justified.

Notice I did NOT say that her questions shouldn't be asked, but they must be asked within the context of the scientific method. Simply saying, "God did it", or "Evolution does not have all the answers" does not qualify as evidence. The theory of natural selection does have flaws, and scientists are constantly seeking new data and information to further refine the theory. That's how science works. I do not see any evidence that the same is being done in ID or Creationism.

13 posted on 03/11/2003 3:42:00 PM PST by LeeMcCoy
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To: Right Wing Professor
Professor,

Do you not recognize the difference between the LAWS of thermodynamics and the THEORY of evolution? Truly?

Incredible.
36 posted on 03/11/2003 4:19:29 PM PST by edger
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To: Right Wing Professor
"A university professor said she was asked to resign for introducing elite students to flaws in Darwinian thought, and she now says academic freedom at her school is just a charade.

During a recent honors forum at Mississippi University for Women (MUW), Dr. Nancy Bryson gave a presentation titled "Critical Thinking on Evolution" -- which covered alternate views to evolution such as intelligent design. Bryson said that following the presentation, a senior professor of biology told her she was unqualified and not a professional biologist, and said her presentation was "religion masquerading as science.""

So just what assumptions are you making about her presentation? Is questioning the theory of evolution out of bounds? Is presenting alternate views out of bounds? Is pointing out errors in the theory of evolution out of bounds? On what evidence are you ready to remove this woman from her chair - because some professor SAID she was teaching religion? Because an EVOLUTIONIST said she was teaching religion....aaaaahhhhhh! Now that makes everything clear.

78 posted on 03/11/2003 5:29:52 PM PST by GilesB
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To: Right Wing Professor
I wouldn't want a department chair who didn't believe the laws of thermodynamics.

Would you agree that there is a bit of difference between the LAWS of thermodynamics and the THEORY of evolution?

87 posted on 03/11/2003 6:04:53 PM PST by jackbill
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To: Right Wing Professor
She was (according to my reading) asked to resign as head; this is generally an administrative position

Who cares what the punishment was. She was punished for expressing her views in a forum designed to express differing views. What this shows is that this college is a total farce and that the forum was a total farce. It was there to make it seem there was free expression and free exchange of ideas when there actually was none allowed which might differ with the administration's views. This is tyranny.

BTW - before you start the garbage about 'evolution is science and all else is garbage' let's hear what the scientific proof of evolution. Let's hear how many species have been OBSERVED to transform themselves into new more complex species.

98 posted on 03/11/2003 8:28:41 PM PST by gore3000
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158 posted on 03/12/2003 9:53:03 AM PST by amarok
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bttt
1,217 posted on 03/31/2003 4:05:43 PM PST by f.Christian (( who you gonna call ... 1 800 orc // evo bstr ))
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