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And it would have been classed as a therapod dinosaur (teeth, tail, skull shape, etc.) if it hadn't been for the imprints of feathers in the fossil. Dinosaur prints discovered prior to the 19th century had been attributed to giant birds because they appeared to be, for all intents and purposes, just that.
404 posted on 03/13/2003 3:34:33 AM PST by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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Junior,

It has been asserted that Archaeopteryx shares 21 specialized characters with coelurosaurian dinosaurs. Research on various anatomical features of Archaeopteryx in the last ten years or so, however, has shown, in every case, that the characteristic in question is bird-like, not reptile-like. When the cranium of the London specimen was removed from the limestone and studied, it was shown to be bird-like, not reptile-like. Benton has stated that "details of the brain case and associated bones at the back of the skull seem to suggest that Archaeopteryx is not the ancestral bird, but an offshoot from the early avian stem."In this same paper, Benton states that the quadrate (the bone in the jaw that articulates with the squamosal of the skull) in Archaeopteryx was singleheaded as in reptiles. Using a newly devised technique, computed tomography, Haubitz, et al, established that the quadrate of the Eichstatt specimen of Archaepoteryx was double-headed and thus similar to the condition of modern birds, rather than single-headed, as stated by Benton.

L.D. Martin and co-workers have established that neither the teeth nor the ankle of Archaeopteryx could have been derived from theropod dinosaurs—the teeth being those typical of other (presumably later) toothed birds, and the ankle bones showing no homology with those of dinosaurs. John Ostrom, a strong advocate of a dinosaurian ancestry for birds, had claimed that the pubis of Archaeopteryx pointed downward—an intermediate position between that of coelurosaurian dinosaurs, which points forward, and that of birds, which points backward. A.D. Walker, in more recent studies, asserts that Ostrom's interpretation is wrong, and that the pubis of Archaeopteryx was oriented in a bird-like position. Further, Tarsitano and Hecht criticize various aspects of Ostrom's hypothesis of a dinosaurian origin of birds, arguing that Ostrom had misinterpreted the homologies of the limbs of Archaeopteryx and theropod dinosaurs.

A.D. Walker has presented an analysis of the ear region of Archaeopteryx that shows, contrary to previous studies, that this region is very similar to the otic region of modern birds. J.R. Hinchliffe, utilizing modern isotopic techniques on chick embryos, claims to have established that the "hand" of birds consists of digits II, III and IV, while the digits of the "hand" of theropod dinosaurs consist of digits I, II, and III.

So while we can debate about whether or not Archaeopteryx is a bird or a therapod for the next several years, the big question is where are all the other billions of other transitional birds? Did one generation of therapods just suddenly give birth to another generation of feathered therapods and then the next give birth to ones with a whole new set of avian features and after all those were in place they just started flying?

Vade Retro once provided this description the evolution of the bird. A small bi-ped trying to escape a predator by grabbing some air with it's forepaws to enhance its cornering. Thus discovering aerodynamics and the rest as you guys say is evolution. Well Vade is crying about how nobody wants to believe his fairy tale, but I'm sorry it's a little bit of stretch and not exactly scientific.

Regards,
Boiler Plate

460 posted on 03/13/2003 11:48:07 AM PST by Boiler Plate
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